Best vintage DD turntables from the 70's and 80's?


Howdy folks-

We’ll I’ve got the vinyl bug for sure. 6 months ago, I bought my first TT, a nice Technics 1200 GR along with some killer vintage MM carts like Audio-Technica, Stanton and a few Grace. I love my GR! I love that little silver bastard A LOT as a matter of fact. A couple weeks ago, my second table arrived, a minty fresh Luxman PD-444 from Japan. This is a Micro Seiki built TT and was the "tits" in the mid 70’s. I can mount 2 arms on the Luxman. I’ve got a nice Victor 7045 arm coming soon along with a Victor X-1IIe MM cart which work quite well together.

I’d like to add another Vintage TT from the 70’s or 80’s and probably phase out the GR. I like the look of the old Pioneer, Denon and Victor tables. I’d like to get a vintage table that can be serviced if needed, something I can add a sweet vintage arm too. 3 arms are better than two!

I’d like to hear suggestions and comments on some fantastic, cool as crap, vintage turntables that you think should sit next to the Luxman.

Thanks again for your help!

Brent




knollbrent

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I’d like to hear suggestions and comments on some fantastic, cool as crap, vintage turntables that you think should sit next to the Luxman.

It all depends on your spending budget; going from some hundred dollars of a Technics Sp 15 to a some tens of thousands of dollars of a Denon DP 100 or an Onkyo PX100M there are an infinite number of goods turntables.

First reveal the budget then you can indicate something between the great and excellent.

Ho visto quel braccio in vendita separatamente a prezzi superiori a $ 4000.

Pioneer PA70 tonearm? Nahhhhhh......now 580$.....I would have done it this week but on a Technics plinth SH 10 B3 is too high.
The Exclusive P10 is reportedly very close sonically to the P3 and should give you more leeway financially. But for some reason it is much rarer on the used market than the P3.

There's one for sale on Canuck Audio Mart ... but deal with it before it disappears quickly.
Just a reminder that the TT-101/QL10 are voltage convertible
at an internal electrical connection

@totem395  Do you know how to do it or do you have an explanatory photo to explain to those who own a TT101 here?
@totem395   

well, I've seen your photos, the transformer is already set up to accept a couple of voltages, just move the wainscot; I thought it was also set for 220-240V
His prices are high, but where else you can buy a MINT condition unit from 1981 if only 100 made.

In my country!
An enthusiast owns it and even put it up for sale recently but it is assumed that it received ridiculous offers and stayed at the owner’s home.
@lewm    in your personal list don't forget the Nakamichi TX1000, Nakamichi Dragon CT, Denon DP100M
Emt 950, 948 and 938 for example.


  I left off the Nakamichi turntables, because many say that apart from the brilliant LP centering device, they are not such great performers,

There are too many variables in judging the sound of turntables especially as regards the combinations of the cartridge and the arms as well as the quality of these; it's hard to think and believe that anyone can recognize how a turntable sounds if they don't transfer arm and cartridge between one base and another to make comparisons.
It is likely that the TX1000 is complicated to repair in the event of a fault, but that someone may point out that it is nothing exceptional, I repeat the above.
The title indicates the best vintage DD without indicating the nationality, for this reason I have reported the Emt.
Serviced PD-441 this guy claimed the motor is made by Mitsubishi , here is the video.

Ohh not not...that engine is terribly similar to Matsushita engines but so similar to the point that I'm sure I'm betting my million against your penny that it's made by Matsushita itself.
I think the reviewer confused the Matsushita logo with the Mitsubishi Logo which are pretty damn similar.
Dual coreless motor used in Dual DD turntables that were among their first efforts. In fact, the story I read is that Dual sued Kenwood over copyright infringement, and Kenwood had to very slightly re-design their coreless motor so as to appease Dual.

I did not know this story, anything can happen no wonder even if in a coreless motor there is not much to modify after having produced it if other brands intend to make it; did you know that Papst made the DD motors for Dual?
Now it could be that Dual designed the DD motor completely in-house and then entrusted the realization to Papst, as it could be that Papst designed and built the motor and Dual decided to use it; these are all hypotheses my where there is no absolute certainty.
The Marantz tables from the 70's were and still are quite nice,

Sorry to disappoint you but Marantz have never been famous for their turntables with the exception of the TT1000
@lewm 

I have always known and am sure I am not mistaken that
-QL 10 consists of TT101, UA 7045 arm and CLP1 plinth
-QL 8 consists of a TT 81 engine, UA 7045 arm and CLP1 plinth

-QL7A is composed of a TT 71 engine and tonearm derived from UA7045 but very simplified with a lifter adjustable by a knob the plinth is chipboard not even plywood veneered, in wood for the Japanese market and partly for some European countries otherwise it is always matt black ... same thing for QL7 with lever adjusted lifter.
Finally QL6 with TT61 engine wood veneer plinth for Japanese market I don't think it has ever been exported outside of Japan.
This is all.
@Tim_p
ok no problems, nice yes but similar to other brands of the time; the 6300 is a good example but the interest stops there.
In this 3ad we discuss the best DD turntables, try to make a list of the best or considered best for each brand if is possible, the Marantz TT 1000 could be part of this list.
All there.
Took 11 month at JP’s lab

practically on a par with the greek kalends! LoL
luckily I learned to do it myself for repair turntables so that I no longer have to depend on anyone.
@chakster

Mr. Brent could not or did not want to sell me any sensors, I practically found the door closed and with much disappointment I had to manage completely alone (after all, not everyone is like Nelson Pass) looking for compatible sensors by buying engines on engines of other brands, spending a lot of time and money on engines to find compatible sensors and doing extensive testing; of the TT 101 only one sensor was defective but in the end I replaced all 3 sensors for consistency and uniformity of performance.
Now that I have the discovery and the knowledge, I'm sorry but I will do exactly as it happened to me, whoever needs it will have to spend time and money in research or stick to the tram and be satisfied.
@knollbrent

Sorry if I'm confused, you weren't absolutely the person, on the contrary, I officially thank you for giving me directions where to try to ask but after trying I found the door closed.
@knollbrent Might it be that people don’t want to deal with you?


however to avoid misunderstanding, I was not asking to get a repair for my TT 101 nor did I want to ship it 7000 miles away for service; I was just trying to buy a sensor, then I would have done it myself by proceeding with the replacement and calibration as it actually happened.