For 30-45K they better be pretty good, very close to SOTA, if not do not be afraid to walk and it does not matter what kind of music you listen to at that price point, this should not be an issue, stay away from the right for the "moment" stuff, good speakers will reproduce what is in the recording with no issues, throw all that you can at them and dont be afraid to buy used.
You can get SOTA sound when buying used at that price for sure.
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45K one must expect SOTA type performance, stay away from speakers with limited mid/twt drivers, dynamic compression will be the order of the day .
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36K for mini monitors(TAD CR1) and the stands are optional, absurd indeed. |
At 36K+ for the TAD CR1 mini monitors, the Magico Q3 is worth a look waaaaaaay before IMO. |
I'm not commenting on there sound , that's personal, I'm commenting on a Pr of mini monitors that retails for 36K and require optional stands.
A Mini monitor Loudspeaker for 36K with optional stands is absurd IMO and for those who don't thinks so that's alright by me, kinda leads into what has happened to this industry on a whole.
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I'm very much aware of the term "minimonitor" also the difference between mini and full, apparently you guys don't. Full monitors don't require stands, speakers on stands are classified as "Mini" full monitors are floor standing, one would think since you are attempting to sell audio products Bill you would know the difference, so let me help you out here, the tweeter listening height is used to tell the difference.
I really don't understand the issue with this or do you guys find it better to cloud my response with semantics and ridiculous rhetoric. IMO any speaker system selling for 36K and comes with optional stands is ridiculous, it's my cash and for 36K you are asking one to budget for stands.
LOL
Obvious what's wrong here , the same crap that has been wrong with this industry and those that feed it for the last 20yrs, whats a 36K mini monitor when one can have an 20K cartridge.
PS: Love the frequency response comment, 3-5 times faster LOL.
I guess game over.............
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Hello 2chnlben,
No i never heard them @ approx 40K with stands it would have to have SOTA level sound, if you think they do , then they would be a worth a look ..
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I would have chosen to look at the Consensus Speakers as frank did over the TAD. The Consensus speaker design is more in line of a speaker costing 30K instead of a bookshelf speaker requiring optional stands as the TAD, IMO.
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Happy new year guys .......... :) |
Hello Ben,
I guess some have an issue with the term mini monitor, i would be interested in hearing what one should call the TAD1's.
Years ago, any speaker of such dimensions were classified as Bookshelf type, years later such size speakers were referred to as Mini monitors when placed on stands, coupling them to the floor, as opposed to full size monitors that were placed directly on the floor.
This was not determined just from the size of the speakers, but more specifically the tweeter height if placed on the floor.
IMO the TAD 1 are mini monitors , where the Consensus are full monitors and are floor standers, funny in the 60's my dad bought a set of KLH speakers, that were very similar in dimensions to the TAD1 and yep they were classified as bookshelf speakers..
With marketing being what it is , they (TAD) can call them anything they want, i guess ...
What about 40K Godzilla Monitors with optional stands?.... :)
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Ohh almost forgot ,
While i do read TAS, the fact that they do not do any objective testing of any kind makes there analysis very hard to swallow, when they sprout of their best of the best.
Hard data is very essential in determining good ears or good wine..
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Bookshelf speakers , bigger than TAD1?
http://www.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/cls.pl?spkrfull&1298727958
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Again John, i said fullrange monitors not "Monitors" and relative to studio monitors the term is applied differently in the commercial field, such as nearfield and or farfield monitors (genelec is of recent).
There are various terms used today and most are applied loosely today, via marketing. A manufacturer can call his speakers anything he wants, but based on the past, i reserve the right to accept or not to.
The TAD1 are mini monitors or bookshelf speakers, take your pick ...
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John .
What is TAD's designation for the TAD1 , monitor? stand speaker? it's 2 small to be a monitor in the realm of a SA12 or B&W 801's , you do know these were classified as monitors and they were much bigger than the tad1.
The key to the designation is the tweeter height , i said so many moons back , over and over , the TAD1 has a tweeter height that is less than 24 inchs , that makes it a mini monitor , no matter how many pounds they put into it.
Now if you want to say they are monitors, OK , but they are smaller than speakers with such a designation and bigger than the usual mini .. now what ?
Here is a speaker with the similar tweeter height to the TADS 1
http://www.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/cls.pl?spkrfull&1298727958
IMO the TAD1's are mini monitors, but I'm willing to update and call them the biggest mini monitors heeevar made.
:):):)
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No 2chnlben... but i do see your response as an attempt to control my opinion, making you the control freak. |
Ben ,
Please do explain ,why i'm more incorrect than you and johnnyB,
You both gave your opinions and i mine, I then cited historical facts of how speakers were designated in the past, I also pointed out an ad with a bigger speaker on stands , classified as a bookshelf speaker, all historically correct.
Historically the tweeter height is what is used to determined the designation...
Regards, |
Let us know how they sound when you hear them Ben ....
Regards,
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TAS also gave the Wilson Sasha the thumbs up ..... |
