Best Preamp and Amp combination, interesting finding!!!


Hi all,

Yesterday, I decided to conduct a very interesting experience using my amp and preamp combinations. In the interest of fair discussion and also avoiding brand war, please allow me to conceal the name of the amps and preamps, knowing that both amps and preamps came from the same manufactures. The combinations are as below: 

Combination 1 (C1): $3000 preamp + $1000 amp
Combination 2 (C2): $1000 preamp + $3000 amp.

I went back and forth between C1 and C2 several times with multiple people, using the same speakers and DAC. The volume of both C1 and C2 was adjusted to be equal using my Db meter. 
At the end of the experience, almost everyone including me prefers C1. Which is a higher-end preamp combined with the lower-end amp. 
I was surprised by that finding. I always thought that the amp has a greater impact to sound quality, but my experiment proved otherwise. If you have any similar experiences, please let me know. I would like to understand why it happens that way. Why the preamp has a greater impact on the overall sound quality comparing to the amp?
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Showing 1 response by clearthinker

The proposition in this post contains too many variables to be worth discussing.
1.  The choice of amplifiers is based solely on retail cost.
2.  It cannot be assumed that cost is the only or even a main determinant of sound quality.
3.  The conclusion allows nothing for listeners' taste in sound, although it is noted that a nearly all listeners came to the same conclusion.
4.  The fact they did suggests that the choice of amplifiers was not optimal.
5.  We are not told if the power amplifiers used have the same output rating.  If they do not, this could affect how the loudspeakers are driven.  A $1000 amp is very likely to output less power than a $3000 amp from the same manufacturer as this is the way a range of products is built up.  How sensitive were the speakers used?  If they were underdriven this will certainly alone explain the finding.

Some 30+ years ago I and a friend conducted an experiment with amplifiers using Audio Research and Krell products.  We created a number of systems where the pre-amp was solid state and the power amp valve driven and vice-versa.  We universally found we liked the rigs with valve pre-amps a lot better.  Since that time my two systems have always been run that way.

Similarly, until I heard the van den Hul 'The Grail SB' I had always preferred the sound of valve phono amps, a series of Audio Research.
Looking for a big upgrade I found The Grail a lot better than the AR Reference and the other high end pieces I tried in my system.  Go figure!