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Best new 5 ch.SACD/ DVD-A/ DVD/ CD player?

I'm considering a change from my Sony 9000ES to gain 5 ch. SACD/DVD-A/CD-R playback and need feedback from members who have had the chance to check any of the newest players out. I wonder how the Pioneer DV-47's DVD playback compares to the Sony 9000ES? Please elaborate a bit on any experiences with the DV-47. I have owned the Pioneer DV-05 and the DV-37, and although they were good players, my Sony 9000ES is superior on every level. It has clearer, sharper video and better CD playback. I am considering the DV-47 because I'm anxious to have 5 channel SACD with DVD-A as well. I wouldn't care about DVD-A, but there are some DVD-A titles I would very much enjoy having. The DV-47 still has the red chroma bug problem, but to what extent?. I'm not sure I can overlook that. I currently use a Toshiba 42H81 HDTV, but will eventually get a DLP pj, and I'm concerned that the red chroma bug will become an issue on a larger screen. Denon has some multi format DVD players coming out with similar features, and no chroma bug. They are usually quite good in terms of audio, but to date their video quality has never been great, so I don't them expect them to excel in that aspect this time as far as DVD playback is concerned, but would be happy to hear that they have produced a winner this time. I use my DVD player as my 2 ch. CD source for the time being, so that aspect must be very acceptable. Tx, Martin
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chaskelljr2001
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Plnney:

Yep, the Pioneer DV-AX10 is an an "all around" universal digital player as well. It is nicely constructed and it is nice looking too. But at $5K, all I can do is look and be very smitten by it. But, that's about all I can do with the DV-AX10, as I cannot afford to spend what 90% of audio system costs just for THAT one item. It was good that I waited the year or so just like I did. Now, Pioneer is coming out with the Elite DV-48A which can do just about everything the DV-AX10 could do a year ago, but only the Elite DV-47A doesn't cost $5K. It will be priced at about $1,200.00 (according to Pioneer anyway), and I may very well pay THAT full amount when the DV-47A finally arrives at my dealer since I would like to get one of the first ones as soon as they arrive at my dealer. With the battlelines between DVD-A and SACD drawn, it turned out that I had to use my existing Pioneer Elite DV-37 as a CD Player for a while until either a new high resolution format was decided on, or until an affordable universal digital hit the market. And now, with Pioneer pending the release of the Elite DV-47A, it looks like now, my ship is going to finally come in.

--Charles--
bazmataz
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but why does the dv47a cost so much less than the apparently inferior dv38a? what giveS???
macfan
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Is it true that the 47A will decode DD, DTS, SACD Multi, and DVD A...??? I MAY be able to get rid of my McIntosh MSD4 Decoder if this is the case.....My Mac C39 has a 6ch audio input that I think will work just fine with the Pioneer>>>>Anybody try it out yet ?? I also have the Sony 9000ES. Tremendous results for video. I'd hate to loose any quality in the video area.....Any good reviews ??? Thanks.......Macfan
twl
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I have heard that all the Pioneer combo players convert the SACD to PCM before outputting to the DAC stage. This eliminates any sonic advantages that the SACD may have over the DVD-A. I think they did this on purpose to convince people that SACD is not better than DVD-A. Whether it is or not, you are not really hearing SACD. You are hearing SACD PCM sampled to DVD-A levels. These are not true multi format players. They just offer multi format compatibility, by allowing you to play SACD discs through the PCM converted output. Virtually everyone that I have heard say that they think that SACD is inferior or no difference has listened on one of these players. And you think it is only Sony that is playing games? Keep your 9000.
flex
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Sorry, Twl, you are wrong on this. The DV 47A does not convert SACD to PCM on output. Pioneer had so much negative response on their earlier players relative to this point that they specifically kept the Sony 'native' format. This has been confirmed repeatedly, its not an opinion.
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