BEST INTERCONNECT FOR $25 EACH?

Thanks for helping with my confusion TLS49!

I am connecting a Marantz 7704 preamp processor to an Anthem PVA 7 amp. I just ordered them both and they are in the mail. 

I need one cable per channel right?

Thanks a lot! They look sharp too!

They are $38 each from B&H. I wonder if there is a better deal if I buy a half dozen.

I just read a previous post on a forum with audio engineers, so I now don’t need you guys to explain what can cause differences in sound. I believe there can be differences in sound due to these cables, but to me it seems to be marginal returns for my money over maybe $100-$200 per cable which I cannot afford right now. 

So far we have infinite cables, mogami, and Belden. The thing that makes me Leary of the Beldin is that although the word might be nice, it looks like people are just slapping RCA connectors to the end. Although Infinite Cables don’t cost a whole lot, they use silver laced solder and put shrink wrap over the ends. Do I want to be looking for cables with silver solder? 

Sorry EBM I am brand new to this and didn’t realize aside from falling apart that it would make much difference for a
line signal. 

I can spend a little more but I have no idea what makes one cable that much better than another. 

Looks like somebody did my dirty work for me. I think I’m sold at $30 per cable. I read on another forum that a guy replaced $10k cables with these. 

Should I go for it grannyring? Are the haters above asking me if I’m serious dude still going to hate? Lol 

Look at this on eBay

Pair DUELUND DCA20GA Interconnect RCA Cable Wire .5M Switchcraft 3502AAU dueland

https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F202167106897

Ok I am really green and have a couple rookie questions. Somebody before mentioned getting wire to send an analog signal. Isn’t this a digital signal? Maybe they meant just don’t use cable meant for video like RG6?

Also, wouldn’t you always want a Shielded cable for this?

I think I studied the strands of the BJC in the past for speaker wire and they didn’t compare to what I normally buy, Phantom Speaker Cable, and figured I would just stick with Phantom rather than go to BJC. Plus it sounds weird but I can’t stand the look of the connectors. They look like lug nuts for electrical wiring. Lol 

After reading the very very interesting article by Jeff Day, it looks like I need shielded wire. 

https://positive-feedback.com/audio-discourse/duelund-coherent-audio-dca16ga-premium-tinned-copper-v...

Since shielded Duelund’s make the price jump quite a bit and they are hard to find, it looks like the Belden 8402 Shielded served Jeff Day quite well before he ran into the Duelund Shielded. For this reason, I may need to turn toward searching for a good price on the 8402 Shielded. 

Ok great, thanks guys. So I’m on the right track.

On Ebay I found a guy in Greece that makes Belden 20awg 8402 Shielded with a choice of rca connectors like the switchcraft 3502AAU and uses Cardas Quad Eutectic Silver Solder with Rosin Flux for $63 a pair. 

Unless you guys guys tell me that 20awg is not thick enough, I may have just found my connects. 

If there is enough savings maybe illnmake them myself but I need to price Belden wire and silver solder. If I make them myself is there a gauge you recommend more? 

Hold on Terry, I think I may be seeing things This looks too good to be true. They show Canare F-9s with the Starquad but I don’t see mention of them or a drop down to select the connects.

https://m.markertek.com/product/sc3rryw/canare-star-quad-audio-cable-rca-male-to-rca-male-3-foot-yel...

I’m still up in the air and starting to watch videos to build my own. If I buy some Duelund wire and make it unshielded, how do I add a drain line?

Are the Duelund makers in this post not using a drain wire?  

Thanks guys. I will check them out Taww. Also, the President of Parts Connexion answered me and said that I don’t even need Shielded cables for a short interconnect application for signals. 

Now I am back to thinking about those Duelunds. Sorry, this is a work in progress as you guys steer me. He also recommended 20awg over the 16awg for the interconnects. 

By the way everybody my speakers are Monitor Audio Gold and my speaker wires are 12AWG Phantom Speaker Cables rated for FT-4 in wall use from Infinite Cables in Canada.  Check out the number of strands! 

Man this turned out to be a great thread from a new knucklehead like me trying to learn the ropes. I have learned so much. 

I am still confused about:
1. Whether I will be sorry if I don’t get any shielding since the Duelund wire seems awesome. 
2. Which side you connect the connected shielded side of the cable. 

All,

I am announcing my purchase. 

Grannyring commented a little while back. 
He makes cables under the name “Acoustic BBQ” right here on Audiogon.

I bucked up and spent more than anticipated, but I am convinced they are the best setup for the money, and he didn’t have to sell me at all. I spend several hours researching with your help.

I purchased 4 IC cables with the following:
1. 2ft 16awg Duelund wire with impregnated oil. 16awg for a bit more meat than 20awg.
2. Cardas GSMO RCA connectors 
3. WBT Silver Solder
3. Not shielded as to not close the sound. The risk of interference is less than the negative effect that shielding creates. Plus, worst case scenario it can always be added.
4. Jacket over twisted wires 
5. Shrink wrap for support. 

Thank you Bill and everybody for your input! 

I think we are actually in the middle of a cellular drop zone lol 

Thanks! Worst case I add shielding later but I think I will be alright. 

Haha magic fairy dust is expensive. 

Yeah who would have thought that shielding closed the sound but I guess it  makes sense now. Like I said, I’ll try it without shielding, and add it if I need to do it. 

I literally knew nothing when I started. This was all very interesting and I’m glad the guys in here stuck with me until I understood. 

I think it’s funny how people keep popping in and asking if this thread is serious. Although I didn’t know what I was talking about when I started the thread, I have learned that if you make them or have them made, you don’t have to spend a million dollars and CAN actually have nice ICs for $25.  

Had i I not had them made for me by Granny ring, I’m sure I could have purchased some Belden wire, silver laced solder, and some $2 switchcraft 3502aau rca connectors for my budget of $25 and been just fine. 

After knowing what I know now, it makes me think the guys asking if this thread is serious are the stupid ones, because they must be overpaying. Lol 

It’s the rca connects blue jeans used that I just can’t get over. 

Thanks Tyray!

And now from you I know to be patient with the burn in time. 

The recommendations were split between 20awg and 16awg, and I went with the 16awg for now. 

I think I read it really comes down to matching the impedance of the system or something like that. 

Thanks Dave! I’m working on two systems. I think I need some XLR ICs now. Looks like I’m back to square one for them. Lol 

I went with custom on here from grannyring aka acoustic barbecue. 

They are 16awg deulund wire with Cardas connectors. 

Duelund not deulund!