Best 845 tube out there?


I am running a pair of Cary CAD-211AE monoblocks with the standard no-name Chinese tubes shipped by Cary. Whilst I am happy with the sound, I think I should buy a pair of 845's to keep as backup in case something happens to these tubes.

Because I will need to buy FOUR of them, this rules out any tube that sells for stupid money (e.g. vintage RCA 845 tubes).

The only current production 845's I am aware of are:

- Shuguang 845 "standard"
- Shuguang 845B
- Shuguang 845C
- Shuguang PSVANE 845
- KR Audio 845

I have found reviews of the Shuguang 845B and 845C, but there is virtually no information out there on the new Shuguang "psvane" 845. Has anybody heard this valve, and is it a noticable improvement over the 845B and C? Also, what do people think of the KR?
amfibius

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Szyckf and Amfibius, as far as I know there are no commercial 845 amplifiers that use a regulated filament supply. Not Cary, not Audio Note, nor ASL. The schematics can be found on the web.

Most DHT amps use a diode bridge > capacitor > resistor > capacitor DC supply, for two reasons:
-it costs less than a regulated supply;
-it sounds better.
AC supplies are not an option, too much hum.

Also, a regulated 10V 3.25A power supply is actually a 35-50 Watts solid state amplifier. Do we REALLY want power transistors (IC or discrete, does not matter) feeding a DHT filament, which is also the tube's signal cathode? I bet that amplifier would sound like the worst of two worlds.

So, maybe KR is feeding you marketing BS to justify a weird product?

A tube with a different heater voltage or current SHOULD get a different number. For example, there are 6SN7s and 12SN7s, self-explanatory (6 volts and 12 V heaters).
This very simple tube industry rule-of-thumb has kept users out of trouble for the last 70 years.

I wish KR and Sophia did not play those marketing games on unwary buyers.
My advice to you: do not import many of those tubes. You are bound to lose money and/or valuable customers.

I own 845 SET amplifiers and have used successfully with zero failures: Shuguang 845A, 845B, 845M and RCA 845.

I wish you good luck with your distribution deal.
DavidSailor, I use Pearl tube coolers on my 845 SET monoblocks.
I noticed that the upper midrange / lower treble is smoother with the coolers.
Also, plate temperature has dropped 20 degrees Celsius ( I use a Fluke infrared temperature meter), so I expect the tubes to last much longer.
I find it a worthwhile investment, given the current prices of NOS 845 tubes.