Mitch2:
Here's a recent 12au7 thread of interest.
DeKay
Best 12AU7 Type Tubes for a Preamp
I am hoping for some help finding good quality and good sounding 12AU7 variant tubes for a preamp – I need two tubes. A price of around $100 each or less would be great but I would pay a bit more (150 ea.) for something that is likely to sound better. The unit came with JAN PHILIPS ECC82 (12AU7/5963) and I also own a pair of reissue/new Mullard ECC92 tubes. Both sets are quiet but I am wondering if there is something even better sounding at a moderate price.
Readily available NOS options I have seen include:
New options I have found (in addition to Mullard) include (among others):
Thanks for any help.
Back sometime in the mid ’90s, one of the best audio investments I ever made was retubing my 12au7 Cary preamp & my 6922 ARC amps via Andy at Vintage Tubes. He sold me a half dozen NOS Mullard 12au7s for the preamp, and the years that I ran that combination made for some of the best sound I have ever had. That was a long time ago, however, with different amps, and my ears were a lot better, and I believe the room was more friendly than the one I am in now. About four years ago I bought some French 12AU7s (I think Cifte was the brand?) from Uncle Kevin at Upscale, and I did appreciate their sound, but things have never been as good as the way I felt about the equipment with Andy’s tubes. But I do need to defer to the disclaimer about amp & room & ear changes over the past 25 years. |
I've never been impressed with the RCA clear tops...or Mullards for that matter. The best I've heard are the German tubes, be it Telefunken or Valvo or whatever brand got stamped on the glass. The labels are meaningless for most NOS tubes and the codes should be used to evaluate where they were actually produced. The tubes that came out of Holland are very nice sounding, if a bit "sweeter" than the German stuff. Phillips had tube plants all over the place and they often weren't all that particular about what brand came from which plant. Tung-Sol produced some really nice sounding, smoked glass 12AU7 tubes that rival the European stuff, but are very hard to find and easily worth the extra scratch. In short, the German stuff is the best and worth the money no matter what brand is on the glass. The Holland made tubes (usually Amperex, but code specific) are very nice and sweet with good detail and worth a premium, followed by European tubes in general that were manufactured by Phillips. Mullard is distinctively warm sounding and often flashes when first powered up. American NOS are hit and miss across the board, with the exception of the Tung-Sol tubes that were terrific. Of the American brands, seeking out the military and commercial radio designed variants are the way to go. |
Thanks all - you have offered some really good thoughts and suggestions for me to consider, and thanks @dekay, the linked thread did have interesting and useful information. As a last thought, this thread has reminded me of what a helpful, friendly community we have here - thanks again. |
@mitch2 - Below is the link to Brent Jessee's website page for 12AU7's he gives impressions of the sound of different NOS 12AU7s which may help you match the tubes with the sound signature you prefer https://www.audiotubes.com/12au7.htm
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