True enough.But I forgot to mention th eremote is extra $500.Bat is tremendous gear fairly priced for how well it made/good it sounds.But given that you lose flexibility and you aren't going to find it (the intergrated) used my suggestion may make more sense.There are somer very good deals here.Then again I renctly has an offer by a dealer to sell me a $4500 list BAT 30SE for $3200.Preyy go deal.But my guess is these are hot off the presses and that kind of deall won't be so readily availible.Fully blow $6K is a lot for a Intergrated anybody would have to admit.Unless they have only been looking at something like Accuphase
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