Chris - I'm not sure what they sell for used OR how they'll compare to some of the other speakers suggested to you - but for me, bass from the Totem Forest speakers has been a real surprise. Early on with them, I'd considered getting a sub. That is no longer necessary. Two keys to getting great bass from them were 1. proper placement - nearer together rather than further apart & 2. adequate amplification - the quality of the bass with a Class D amplifier (Taranis from Merrill Audio) is excellent...deep, well-controlled and nuanced. Cosmic Hippo by Bela Fleck is a great track for plumbing bass depths, as you may know. I would note, bass from the Forests, even when driven by 78wpc Class A/B tube amps, did improve greatly once I found the proper placement for the them. Placement takes priority over power in my experience. Hope this helps. Good luck in your search.