Balls.....


Who here has upgraded their turntable platter bearing with a ceramic ball? What were your impressions of the upgrade? Worth it, not worth it?  I have a VPI non-inverted unit. It appears there is a gentleman in New Jersey that performs the upgrade. 
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Anyone have any measurements?
  • lower rumble
  • less wow / flutter
  • better speed consistency
Anyone hear the same thing just by removing the ball and replacing in a different orientation?

Anyone do any analysis over time?


Re: the job done on my TNT, the sapphire crystal may very well have been a watch crystal. I didn’t know very much about this stuff then and I placed my trust in the guy who did it. He had some very favorable reviews and certainly knew what he was doing.

When I say that the lubricant he supplied was very thick and made the TT take a very long time to settle into the bearing, I mean a VERY long time. It was a while back, but I believe it took well over an hour.

Finally, it was clear that my thrust plate was worn. That was more easily seen even than wear on the ball. If you just replace the ball you haven’t really done the whole job. Not to mention the possibility of better materials.

For those with newer VPI inverted bearings, know that the older ones (which I think are better because the ball and plate are in an oil bath) are far more easily worked on as the bearing thrust plate can simply be unscrewed from the rest of the bearing. In fact, now that I know better what is actually done, I think it’s a pretty easy DIY job to replace ball and plate. I wonder what the NJ guy would charge.
I replaced the steel ball for a silicon carbide ball. Steel thrust plate, steel axel with brass sleeves. On a Logic DM101. Wasn’t a huge difference. But subtle for the better. Changed lubricant at the same time, can’t remember the brand, from someone in the UK who modded Rega’s. So the lube contributed perhaps as well. The ball was sold as a good grade (of evenness, I guess). I am sort of convinced that the quality of its roundness/evenness contributes the most.
Kind regards.
ieales,
Interesting thought. Let us know what the results are after doing it yourself.

Thanks

Did it in the 70's when Oracle updated the bearing assembly.

Oracle was replaced by Goldmund in early 80's.

Goldmund disposed of in 1987.

Now only play the silver disc. Not an endorsement, just a preference.