B&W vs Von Schweikert house sound?


Looking to get handle on differences in sound between B&W 802N/D&803N/D and the various comparable VSA models: VR4SR, VR4SRmkii, VR5HSE, VR5SE (although the 5SE may be beyond the range of comparison, no?). What are the distinctive differences between them, ie,
which is warmer,
has more detail,
is more analytical,
more forgiving of bad recordings,
gets deeper and provides more visceral bass
provides more articulate vs boomy bass,
better soundstage and imaging,
has more liveliness or live feel,
widest dispersion/sweetspot,
less finicky about placement
would play nice in 15x18 basement

Thanks much...Jeff
jeffkad

Showing 2 responses by maineiac

If you look at the multitude of threads that are basically people looking to "fix" their B&W issues with a [insert cable, amp, pre-amp, new speaker, etc.] it should tell you something. To my ears they sound good at first but after just a few minutes the sound and lack of musicality wear thin. I have even seen a dealer sneak a sub into demos of his B&Ws.

VSAs in comparison have a smoother but delicate top end, better sound stage, and they dig way deeper with good authority on bass. To me the VSA are better from stem to stern and are pretty great options at their price points. In a 15X18 space the 4JR would be a good option.
I am guessing that 9rw is referring to the fact that my plasma is showing Carrie Underwood in my system pictures.

I have not heard the VSA 5HSE/SE. I am purely guessing that because of your room size that the 4SR might be a bit overpowering on the bass and they are just physically big speakers too. I would call Albert to discuss.

I did extensive demos of B&W 803N (not D) as well as thiel, sonus faber, usher, etc. and could never get comfortable and enjoy what I was hearing. The instant I heard VSA4JR it was a done deal. The 3D capability of VSA is incredible. I am not sure if there are many dealers left because of the change in the sales model a year or two ago but you should hear the VSA for yourself if at all possible.

If you like the B&W sound and flavor then moving up and across lines may be what you need. It just never worked for me.