B&W 804 diamond or previous 803D?


Could you please help me in choosing the better option? I can buy either of these two speakers but new 804 diamond cost by €1.150 more than second-hand 803D. What would be your advice?
papalam

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Hi Papalam,

I have just reread this thread and realized that I made an error, i.e. instead of 804 diamond I read 803 diamond. My previous post was about 803 diamond vs. 803 D. Sorry for the lengthy and useless "advise". :)

Buying the 803 D was a good decision!
Hi Papalam,

I am not sure whether the quoted price difference is for a single speaker or
for a pair of speakers. But either way, the amount does not sound right to me.
In the following, I will assume the difference is for a pair of speakers.

In the Netherlands the retail price of a pair of 803 diamond is 9000 euros.
Which means you would pay only 10-15% less for a 2nd hand speaker from
the previous generation. This is just not right.

Firstly, when buying 9k euros speaker that are new you should have no
problem to get 10-15% off the retail price. If you can not get such a discount
then just go to another dealer.

Secondly, when buying (from a private person) 2nd hand speakers that also
happened to be from the previous generation you should not pay more than
60% of the retail price of the equivalent new model. If you buy a demo model
from a dealer who also offers some significant warranty (1,2,3 years NOT 3
months) then you should not pay more than 65-70% of the retail prices of the
equivalent new model. This is especially the case when considering very
popular brands like B&W.

However, since you do not mind buying 2nd hand speakers (I do not mind
either) my advice would be to look for some Wilson Sophia 2 or Focal Alto Be
speakers. Both are much better than the 803 diamond or 802 diamond for
that matter. The Wilson should cost you about as much as a new pair of 803
diamonds, the Focals are cheeper (around 7k euros). Of course, there are
many other options.

Finally, I should say that if you plan to keep the speakers for a long time than,
given the price point, 1150 euros is not that significant.

Good luck and keep us posted!
Paul