I had the 802 Matrix it's a good choice for someone who loves sweet sound. After i had the Thiel 2.5 and now for three years i have the B&W Siver Signature and i like them alot. So i can tell you forget the brightness of Thiels or Avalons with a pair of B&W , their treble "roll off" is well known. I recomend Tubes on the S.S and transistor for the others.