I am also interested in the Ref 30, but I recommend you hold off for a few months. The current Ref 30s do NOT have discrete 6.1 capability (DD EX and DTS ES). What they do have is a matrixed version of 6.1 ("Surround EX" and "THX EX") in which the signal for the rear channels is matrixed from the side surrounds much the same way the center channel is matrixed from the front mains in Dolby Pro Logic. According to a tech at B&K, the DD EX and DTS ES software won't start appearing in the Ref 30 for about another one to three months.