Avantgarde Trios too loud with my amps


I just bought a pair of Avantgarde Acoustic Trio speakers and run them on BAT VK-5i and BAT VK-60 monos!
The problem: They are still too loud at the lowest volume setting on my tube amps and listening to music at night is almost impossible since my kids are asleep.
I have my phono preamp under control since it allows me to change the output, but listen to my digital source ( ML 31.5 - 30.5 combo) is definitely too loud!

Does it mean I have to go and buy another preamp?
any other ideas are highly appreciated!

many thanks,

mckorzi
mckorzi

Showing 3 responses by chadeffect

Why not try the kind of amps the Trio allows you to use?

You do not need all that power. 2-25w is plenty. All that push pull and extra amplification stages only eat into the organic ness and beauty that small simple amps will give you. With the kind of sensitivity you have the amplification possibilities are endless. 45 tubes, 2a3, AD1,300b and so on.

That aside, ask BAT if there is a change in resistor value that could bring your volume control into a more useable range.
Zd542,

You make some very good points if keeping the BATs, but the very quality these speakers show so clearly can only be found in flea power. Otherwise you may as well go back to low sensitivity speakers.

We are in pretty specialist waters here. Obviously you can use anything to drive Trios. I even had 1,000w monos on them!

The list of power tubes I mention in an above post (and other tubes of course) but especially those I mention will take the OP to places I'm sure he didn't know existed.

These low powered tubes present Timbre, organicness, soul, layering, dynamics, sweetness, beauty, image size etc in ways I have never heard in any other forms of amplification. Each tube bringing more or less of the above traits. So the ability to tune the sound to your own taste is almost infinite.

Those powerful tubes used in the BAT are for another problem these speakers do not have. You will miss some rare sonic virtues that are available.
Just to add to the good advice above, bare in mind you are in a realm where finally you don't need mega $ over the top amps. The circuits should be so simple that the part count is in the 10s!

I praise The Lord when a flea power amp the price of an interconnect of virtue comes through the door and puts in the type of performance you once dreamed of.

I advise you (especially if you are a true audiophool) to enjoy the journey with the Trio. I never in my wildest dreams thought a 2w amp of modest cost could satisfy. If you need a larger sound or more SPL a 4w amp like that of an AD1 tube a la the Yamamoto A06, or god forbid a Tom Evans Linear A or B will blow your mind with explosive dynamics and speed.

I'm sure the Lamm as mentioned is great too, but for that price you could have a couple or even three lovely amps for various moods in your arsenal.

Try audition the types of tube amp you could never have used before. Your 110db/w sensitivity and active bass allows even the smallest power amp to be bombastic and completely unstressed. It is a whole new "old" world!