+1 for: "yes. the music you like to listen to is the music you should "use" to evaluate equipment."
Audio Science Review = "The better the measurement, the better the sound" philosophy
"Audiophiles are Snobs" Youtube features an idiot! He states, with no equivocation, that $5,000 and $10,000 speakers sound equally good and a $500 and $5,000 integrated amp sound equally good. He is either deaf or a liar or both!
There is a site filled with posters like him called Audio Science Review. If a reasonable person posts, they immediately tear him down, using selected words and/or sentences from the reasonable poster as100% proof that the audiophile is dumb and stupid with his money. They also occasionally state that the high end audio equipment/cable/tweak sellers are criminals who commit fraud on the public. They often state that if something scientifically measures better, then it sounds better. They give no credence to unmeasurable sound factors like PRAT and Ambiance. Some of the posters music choices range from rap to hip hop and anything pop oriented created in the past from 1995.
Have any of audiogon (or any other reasonable audio forum site) posters encountered this horrible group of miscreants?
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@rtorchia "I am still amazed at the vehemence of the attacks on Amir and his following on this thread. All he is doing is applying scientific criteria to his reviews of audio components."
If only... No, he is also stating his opinion on what a piece of equipment sounds like without ever listening to it. |
Amir, As an audio equipment reviewer, why do you choose not to actually listen (with music) to every audio component you review? Note that I already understand (from your prior post) that you do listen to speakers & headphones. I'm wondering why you limit actual listening tests to those and don't bother to listen (again with music) to amps, dac's, etc.
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In context to my earlier post to amir, which was: As an audio equipment reviewer, why do you choose not to actually listen (with music) to every audio component you review? Note that I already understand (from your prior post) that you do listen to speakers & headphones. I'm wondering why you limit actual listening tests to those and don't bother to listen (again with music) to amps, dac's, etc."
amir asked boxer12.... "Why would you trust what I would have to say about it? Why do you trust anyone? Is your room the same as theirs? You play the same music? Your ears are the same? You see the problem?"
boxer12 answers... 1. I wouldn’t, but it would be a human datapoint. Get enough of those right & I might trust your opinion (somewhat at least) 2. I do trust the opinion of some experienced audiophiles 3. No, but those I trust have room treatments of some sort. They listen to music & treat their rooms accordingly, as do I 4. Irrelevant 5. No & I’m well aware of that (also fine with it). Surprised you bring it us though. 6. Yes, you trust you’re measuring all the right things so human interface with the audio component is not necessary. |