Audio Research Reference 5 Preamp

So I see on the Audio Research Data Base website they listed the new ARC REF 5 preamp for $12000. Does anybody have any details about it?

tlg06-20-2009 12:29am

tonywinsc Details Discussions Posts This discussion Message User 583 posts 06-24-2009 at 11:11am Copy Comment URL Report Comment Edit Delete What happened to Ref 4? Did it blow up?
gladstone Details Discussions Posts This discussion Message User 296 posts 06-24-2009 at 12:15pm Copy Comment URL Report Comment Edit Delete When will the Reference 7 preamp appear?
gnsc Details Discussions Posts This discussion Message User 42 posts 06-24-2009 at 02:58pm Copy Comment URL Report Comment Edit Delete The model number 4 seldom appears in hi-end audio products, at least not from companies that want to sell any of those products in Asian countries. The number 4 represents bad luck.
rx8man Details Discussions Posts This discussion Message User 1,481 posts 06-24-2009 at 05:15pm Copy Comment URL Report Comment Edit Delete Now I know why all the REF 3's were up for sale, nice upgrade path.
rgurney Details Discussions Posts This discussion Message User 279 posts 06-24-2009 at 07:15pm Copy Comment URL Report Comment Edit Delete Rx8man - Consider the REF 5 the 'REF 3 MkII' - an expensive 'upgrade' where you send your REF 3 to someone else and receive the REF 5 back for 12k minus the money you got for selling your REF 3.