Audio Research I/50


Does anyone know anything tangible re: the ARC I/50 Integrated, apparently soon to be released?
There are some slick-looking pics on Instagram, and I’ve seen reference to an optional phono stage and DAC, but that’s about it. Will this be their first release post McIntosh Group spin out? 
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i am thinking on buying this new  audio research I/50 integrated
unfortunately there is no option to listen to it on demonstration in my country, only i can order it.
couldn't find yet any review about it's sound quality.
does any one found some review?

i read somewhere that it has an automatic bias.
its a bit hard to believe that you cant make a bias.
any way i asked a friend of mine, a experience technician in those amps, to check this subject.
i agree that its a bit bother, since from my experience tubes bios should be checked from time to time, even before replacing.
this subject must be checked.
2000 hours is not so much to people that use the amp frequently.
"If your amplifier is getting regular use (2+ hours a day), you should at a minimum check the bias every 3-6 months."

found this:
"Like all modern amplifiers from Audio Research, this one also has automatic bias adjustment, which makes living  with a valve amplifier much easier".
but still, i  would like to have an option to check and bias it by myself from time to time.

the question is why if it has automatic bias , you still have to bias it "by a trained technician to ensure proper operating values."
something is contradicting here ?

you have it here , and also found it on other site at the time.
"The i50 also uses an auto-bias configuration, so you will not have to worry about that aspect of vacuum tube operation either."
but of course its not official and things must to be checked.
https://www.tonepublications.com/review/the-audolici-i50-swing/
and here
 

 

they say about a technician only when changing tubes.
i agree that it strange that they didn’t mentioned anything about the bias adjustment on the manual.
if it’s no auto or user adjustable it is really bad news.

on the other hand i believe that they aren’t so stupid to produce such a thing that most of the people Will be deterred to buy.
it is something to check carefully.

 

although its looks like there is an issue with the bias adjusting, i still think that it’s something to check with ARC
i don't think i'll buy an tube amp without this option

i also will not buy an amp that  can't control the bias , auto or manually, but i think that this subject still need to be checked.
i don't think you'll have to send it for biasing.
think that the meant is when you replace the tubes, let say after 2000 hours of playin, which to my opinion it's not much, it can be to me after 1.5 year, you can bias it using a technician at your place.
but, yes, if it like that ,it's disappointing. 
 

it's really  inconvenient but at least there is an option to bias.
a friend of mine, a very experienced technician with tube amps said that there is also a disadvantage in auto bias.
sometimes you cant use other brand or type of tubes when it's auto bias.
for me the i50 is still an option.

i hope that sometime soon there will be a comprehensive review, in a serious magazine/site   about it's sound quality 

@ Transience

how to your opinion is the Linear Tube Audio soundwise compare to an arc around this price point ?
and what is the reason for this:
"be more agreeable to the younger listeners"

one of the weird things is that arc saying that the amp will work at it's best after 600 hours of using it.
on the other hand that average tubes life is 2000 h.
so it means that 30% percent of tubes life you don't get the best potential.
btw, the 2000 hours they are talking about is only when you playing music trough the  amp, or also when it on, but idle?
 

do you sure that after changing to a new tubes there is no an additional break in?