Audio research 16II or Pass X1


I'm trying to decide between these two pre's. Thanks to the help from some fellow A'goners, I've decided that if I decide to go the solid state route, I'll get a Pass. For the last week or so it's looked like I would go with a Pass. But now I've got this nagging feeling about a tubed Pre. I've heard good things about Audio Research. I had a chance to demo one about 10 years ago when I first got into Hi Fi and separate components. I know that without spending a small fortune, I have to make compromises. Tubes lack the last word in bass resolution and extension to the frequency extremes. On the other hand, I heard that SS, even the Pass does project a holographic image. So it's bass vs the ulitmate in imaging. Also, there's the midrange bloom people talk so much about. Not sure on that one. I've heard it and it's very seductive, but is it real or just another distortion. I'm not set on the AR 16II either, it just appears to have the quality and price I think I can live with. Other older AR pre's tend to be more "tooby." This, I think is the wrong direction for me. Undoubtedly my dilemma has been faced by many fellow audiophiles in the past. If anyone out there with patience and a kind heart would care to weigh in I sure appreciate it. Thanks.
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Showing 1 response by kevziek

Before deciding, first check out the tiny power supply on the LS-16. The transformer is so small, I believe it is mounted directly on the circuit board. I own an ARC amp. But I am amazed at how cheap ARC is in what they give you in their preamps. I believe the unit weighs 11 pds. You might also read the reviews on Audioreview.com of the LS 15, 16, & 22. There were several people who remarked on how small the power supplies are in the 15 and 16. Also, there was a comment about the bass and how the LS15 or 16 is unable to handle big dynamic swings, etc.

The Pass has a huge separate power supply. I have listened to it, and it is a very good sounding unit that is hard to fault. However, I believe tubes still have a little more midrange palpability, although the Pass fleshes out the sound in a 3-D fashion and with a body that is closest to tubes that I have heard, and certainly more than most transistor pieces can dream of doing.

Perhaps you should check out some other tube units such as BAT, CJ, Supratek.