Audio nonsense


In this wonderful world of audio that we journey through folks selling stuff have sometimes been inventive in what they claim. In your trip down this road what sticks out as the most ludicrous thing you’ve seen someone try to sell? 
 

I can point to 2 things. When I first saw a Tice clock in a store I thought it was a gag. Next- Peter Belt. 

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Showing 15 responses by djones51

This site is full of nonsense crap for sell. Start with those disc things in the other thread and work your way through anything sold by SR.

How can one formulate an opinion on something they have never tried.

I form these opinions everyday. I’ve never walked off a skyscraper nor walked in front of a train but I have formulated an opinion as to the results. The efficacy of these idiotic contraptions take the same level of common sense.

This forum has been irrelevant for years. Babbling about uber $$$  wires and magic discs isn't  learning about anything other than human biases. Get a grip.

We don't know all there is to know about gravity but we know enough to know the outcome of stepping off a skyscraper. We know enough about electricity to build audio components that can take sound waves turn them into electrical signals and back to sound waves. It isn't necessary to know everything there is to know.

Argument from ignorance is a logical fallacy. The point isn't we don't know everything so we know nothing. A closed mind is a thing to behold what's even more wondrous to behold is a mind so open all of one's brains fall out. Is isn't necessary we understand everything about electricity to build sound reproduction gear.

Do we know all there is to know about electricity?

No, but we know enough to use it to capture and reproduce sound waves.

Is there a possibility that we still have a lot to learn? 

Yes, but not about conductivity in copper.

Is there a possibility that we might not know all there is to measure?

Yes, but we can measure sound beyond human hearing.

But you folks know all there is to know, right? 

No, but I know an argument from ignorance when I see it.

But you’re beyond that loosely goosey flakey stuff.  

I'm beyond thinking  magic discs stuck to wire cables  would be anything other than a tone control. 

No wonder 99% of the time almost everyone claiming to be an audiophile fails double blind tests.

Makes sense to me. The audiophile claims to hear differences  between devices and fails to do so in double blind testing. In this scenario the audiophile is the DUT.

blind listening test evaluates a Device Under Test, not the listener

In some instances the listener is the device under test. If I claim I can tell 2 different DACs apart, I'm not testing the DACs ability but the claimants ability. 

I used to think I could do it by ear then I started measuring and could see how lousy my ear is, perhaps others are a lot better.  These are $3700 Philharmonic BMR Towers in room with no special room treatment only using DSP. 

 

It just shows a slope of the FR from my listening position. Yes, it was done with DSP which shows bass traps are not always needed to smooth the nulls or absorption for reflections. DSP isn’t really doing a whole lot above 500hz. IF I could post the whole MDAT file it would show a lot more, distortion, waterfall, IR etc... I could never achieve anything this smooth by ear or in a living room without measurements.

One thing It isn’t going to tell you is, if you like the sound of these speakers but access to calibrated mics and software at very little expense to do measurements is essential in my opinion to get results like this.

to me this reads that your patient has flatlined.....

It doesn't follow the Harman curve but it's my subjective preference. The patient isn't dead but he is going downhill.