Asymmetrical Room Treatment


Hi everyone. I have a relatively small room (about 11x15x8). For a variety of reasons I have really only one option as to which orientation to place my speakers (Thiel 2.3), which happens to be against one of the 11' walls. In general everything is great, except for one issue- the room is closed off all around except for an opening into the kitchen/rest of my apartment behind the left speaker. The opening is about 4' wide. I think this is preventing me from getting as good an image as I otherwise would, and I am not sure what the best method to treat this problem is. I recently made some 4" OC-703 bass traps, and have placed one of them across the corner behind the right speaker (which has a wall), with another trap directly next to it along the front wall.

My suspicion is that the best way to go would be to treat the area with as much low, or just broadband, absorption as possible behind the right speaker (which has a wall behind it) to try and balance things out. Any thoughts on this issue? I haven't been able to find any information addressing this specific room problem! Thanks.
chrisar

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Hi Kevinzoe, thanks for the response! I'll try and address your points to provide a bit more info:

"How far out from the front wall is your speakers?"

The speakers are about 45" out from the front wall measured from the woofer (or 30" from the back of the speaker). I do have some leeway here and could move them out a bit more- the main reason I have them where they are is to allow enough distance to my seating position, as per Thiel recommendations to allow the drivers to integrate.
As a side note, my ears in the seating position are about 5' out from the back wall, which I have found seems to avoid a heavy mid-bass peak which occurs when I sit closer to the rear wall. This position also gives me just about 8' from the midpoint between the speakers.

"Using a resistive-type trap with OC fiberglass means you will need to make it very thick and should have a decent air space (e.g. 6")"

The traps I just made are 4" thick 2'x4' OC-703. One of them that is across the diagonal corner has about 9" airspace from the corner, and the other that is sitting right next to it on the front wall has about 7" airspace at the bottom, but it is learning against the wall (not mounted- sitting on the floor), so the airspace decreases across the 4' height of the trap. This is definitely a place I could improve on I think, and just double-up each of these traps to make their thickness' 8". Only issue would be the traps would be getting pretty close to the back of the speaker, though this may not be a problem.

"Can you add an exterior door behind the left speaker?"

This is something I had considered (in theory at least!). I can't add a door (one of the many downside of renting...can't add doors or drill holes in walls to mount my traps...not to mention one of the walls is cinderblock!), but I did think about having some sort of removable partition that I could just place when listening, and set aside otherwise. I would assume it would need to cover most of the opening, from floor to ceiling? And also be fairly thick? Perhaps I could find some sort of big wooden board and then mount a bass trap onto that, then put that in place behind the left speaker during listening?

"The reflections on the back wall can be just as damaging so have you treated the back wall yet? "

Unfortunately my back wall has a large window centered in the middle of it, so essentially the whole thing is glass aside from near the top/bottom and left/right sides. I did recently put up some drapes to help with high and mid-frequency reflections, but I am not sure if it would be feasible to treat any additional way. I did consider also having some sort of removable partition with treatment on it that I could place over the window in the area behind my head, but I am not sure how this would work... I do like your idea for diffusion back there though- I've heard this can make a big difference in a small/medium room, I've just never tried one in here.

So I am thinking now that the best option may be a combination of more broadband absorbers behind the right speaker, and maybe some sort of partition to block the opening behind the left speaker. One of the pro's of being single and living alone: aesthetics are not a huge concern, especially if I keep things removable when I have guests over :). Thanks again!
Hi John. Thanks for the feedback! I actually do have hi/mid absorbers (foam, not 703) at my first reflection points on the side walls. I will move out the bass trap I have in the rear-right corner and place it with the others in the front behind the right speaker. This will mean I will have my 3 bass traps all in the front right, and the corners in the back will be untreated.

I have 2 additional foam absorbers along with the ones at the side-wall first reflection points, which I currently have against the front wall in the center and near the opening. Perhaps it would be good to use these against the back wall in front of the window? Or better yet, I guess I should probably just get another broadband absorber if not a diffusor, as suggested by Kevin, for back there. Good to know about drapes- I had assumed they would be effective a little further down, but I suppose it makes sense that they would only tame the very high frequencies...
Hey everyone, thanks for the responses; they've been very helpful! At the moment I have treated the front wall behind the right speaker pretty heavily, and just with this I can tell that there is a pretty large improvement in imaging detail; instruments seem more defined into specific spatial locations. I will experiment with treating or not treating the rear corners and see what results I get.

On a related note- I currently have two, 4' tall (4" thick) bass traps in the front, right corner (one on top of the other). My ceiling is only about 7'8" tall, so the bottom trap is at a pretty tilted angle, which at the bottom floor/wall/wall corner leaves a substantial airspace, probably about 2' at the furthest point. While I know that having a decent amount of airspace between a trap and wall is beneficial, is there an upper limit on this? My guess would be that about 1 or 2 times the thickness of the trap would be ideal, but I am just guessing here.