Article: "Spin Me Round: Why Vinyl is Better Than Digital"


Article: "Spin Me Round: Why Vinyl is Better Than Digital"

I am sharing this for those with an interest. I no longer have vinyl, but I find the issues involved in the debates to be interesting. This piece raises interesting issues and relates them to philosophy, which I know is not everyone's bag. So, you've been warned. I think the philosophical ideas here are pretty well explained -- this is not a journal article. I'm not advocating these ideas, and am not staked in the issues -- so I won't be debating things here. But it's fodder for anyone with an interest, I think. So, discuss away!

https://aestheticsforbirds.com/2019/11/25/spin-me-round-why-vinyl-is-better-than-digital/amp/?fbclid...
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Showing 9 responses by acmaier3

The reason vinyl sounds better is the instrument timbre and the interaction of them. There is no electronic tool for measuring this. Regardless of the format, albums recorded with instruments played separately have a similar problem - lacking vitality and authenticity bc those of us used to live performance miss these musical interactions. Modern digital sampling helps (often with better mastering and mixing) a lot but compared to old digital sampling vinyl is astounding - there is zero contest.

Direct stream w/ SB2 vs RPM3 with EVO III through a gold note PH-10 > my DAC is theoretically better than the phono including better cables.
Timbre definitely exists... it’s why one guitar sounds different than another. Why nylon strings sound different than steel. 
Audio2design is a fool arguing with facts like a homeless person yelling at a street sign. 
Using the exact same mastering with MODERN digital SAMPLING, over several comparisons keeping my room and equipment static strongly favors the analog even though my digital setup is significantly more expensive and even “better” according to most. My conclusion is digital SAMPLING misses the instrument timbres and overtone interactions. 
I think some people have emotional reactions favoring digital bc they don’t have the time, patience, and history of collecting vinyl. Digital is easy, cheap, and has fewer needs to maintain stuff. Lazy like their opinions. 
FYI
That’s $4300 vinyl setup trouncing an $8000 digital

IMAGO get some $1k Kimber XLR for the phono preamp out to square up the competition... another story!
@mahgister I know full well what timbre is since music theory in college

Your mansplaining or copying out of a book is irrelevant and adolescent.

Most of what you talk about is rambling gibberish suitable for an abnormal psych textbook but not here, though we appreciate the enthusiasm!
Here’s another point worth considering
microphones and instruments are analog (infinite in that sense). Sampling no matter how good is not infinite (if you don’t get the 3/4D aspect).  
There’s no instrument but the human ear for this (yet).

BTW the comparison with digital photography is poor
our hearing detail far exceeds our visual acuity
@audio2design you literally said timbre doesn’t exist... that’s severely discrediting

my musical and sound system engineering includes quite a bit actually such as concerts and installations

Analog is actually 4 dimensional while volume reproduction in digital creates loss bc there is no amplitude

It’s not natively sampled in 3/4D while analog is. Was. Pure modern digital can maybe keep up but we can’t tell bc few record on analog anymore. 
What IS nearly definitive is that older recordings, even when remastered digitally, are better in analog delivery.
I’m not arguing this point so much as to explain why so many believe digital sounds inferior (perhaps to those preferring a live performance sound granted).
Tonight’s comparison
Wilco’s “Star Wars”
Qobuz FLAC 44.1kHz/24b > DirectStream+B2 > Kimber KCAG XLR
vs
vinyl on pro-ject RPM3 >gold note ph-10/ps-10 > blue Jean xlr
both into Schiit Freya+ (Tubes off and on, fully balanced on both signals) > Parasound A23 mono > SF Sonetto 8 > my ears

Vinyl wins hands down. Not really a very close comparison. Clarity. Detail. Truer high end.
Here’s to cheap cables? Nah
here’s to vinyl
@audio2design doesn't believe in timbre nor the difference between analog/infinity vs discrete/digital! Analog instruments don't sample...analog/infinite - very simple concept; granted within the bounds of manufacturing and human hearing but nothing is "discarded" or "sampled' like in digital.

I wish my more expensive digital system could sound like the less expensive vinyl setup, even using regular pressings, but it just doesn't - while mind you my DAC is one of the 10 best on the planet... I guess you can't contribute anything to explain this from your digital biased perspective so don't really care what you have to say anymore. In the face of numerous A vs D comparisons, I can't get the digital to compete...at twice the cost; maybe with DSD512... These are my explanations to understand why.