ARE YOU A " TRUE EXPERT AUDIOPHILE " ( T E A ) ???


Dear friends: I questioned my self several times about with no sure answer in this " easy " question.

A priori almost all of us think we are and through the Agon threads ( and in other forums. ) we try to show " we are ". We try to share our experiences and " best " learning and at the same time through those thread  discussion we try to learn. Well not all, many of us posted/post to be the winner: the one with the right  and only explanations.

Through my audio life I learned that exist no single audiophile ( included proffesionals reviewers/"gurus". ) whom write the right audio " bible ", many of us have higher knowledge level on some audio topics and " almost "  all ignorants with other topics it does not matters what that " guru " can think.

IMHO the high-end audio experience is a day by day endless learning and we can learn not only from those " gurus " but from the " rookies " too.

Now, the main subject in the thread is to find out with certainty what means: T E A   level  and to start somewhere first I would like ,  along all of you,  try to find out the definition of an Audiophile.

So, the thread is totally open for all of us come to help on this T  E  A   quest.

So, for you: what's and AUDIOPHILE ?  main characteristics for ?

W E L C O M E D  !!!  your effort is appreciated. Btw, the thread is NOT and evaluation of each one of us but looking for answers and a learning exercise for all.

Regards and enjoy the music,
R.


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Dear atmasphere: With all respect to you I think and know for sure that you are way better than your statement in what you posted.

Anyway: thank's

Regards and enjoy the music,
R.
Dear wultke: """  The only people that think I am an expert audiophile also think I am nuts. """

Take in count that in this  T E A  quest we are trying to find out the  T E A  characteristics and not talking of a specific person/gentleman.

Regards and enjoy the music,
R.
Dear paladin:  """  I think the only TEA's are people that you believe are the experts """

I agree. Now, what define a T E A   ? and this is our quest a quest where almost all can agree with.


Regards and enjoy the music,
R.
Dear onhwy61:  """  That would mainly be designers, manufacturers, retailers, but also a few reviewers. """

Yes, every one can qualify for T E A  after we define, step by step , that qualification.

Regards and enjoy the music,
R.
Dear oblgny: """  those who know don't tell,  this who tell don't know..."""

Well what we want it is to find out ( not the person but what defines it. ) if exist those """ who know at T E A  level  """


Regards and enjoy the music,
R.
Dear vesollozo: """  a "true expert audiophile" would be the rare bird that has a wealth of experience connecting different makes and models of gear to arrive at a certain sound for a certain requirement and a certain environment. This person has a vast knowledge of what to put together to make magic happen for the person it is intended for.  """

I like your post that has some audiophile's characteristics. That's your overall view of a  T E A  and trhough the thread we will see if there are other characteristics inside the whole T E A  subject.

Regards and enjoy the music,
R.
Dear cleeds: I would like that you can post a contribution that can help to our T E A  quest.

Regards and enjoy the music,
R.
Dear russbutton:  """  To me an audiophile is someone who loves listening to music and always wants to hear it better if he/she can. """

I ask for the audiophile definition to start our " research " and I'm totally in agreenment with your statement and only coul add: 

""" through his/her home audio system "".

You are right too on all the other " characteristics " you mentioned. Thank's

Regards and enjoy the music,
R.
Dear lewm: """  I would define the term "audiophile" as "a music lover who got side-tracked by a parallel obsession with the reproduction of music by electronic means" """

you introduce/coincide with russbutton definition and I agree with both in that definition: " a music lover ", we can think that all of us are music lovers but I'm not to sure if in reality we all are or only like to listen it at home. Latter I will try to return to this subject.

Btw, I'm not against tubes, as a fact I used for years. I don't want to open another " window " here but to stay in focus with the thread's targets.

regards and enjoy the music,
R.
DEAR FRIENDS: I think is a must to tell all of you that the " hide " target in this thread is not only to find out what we all think are the  T E A characteristics that as lewm, me and many of you want to arrive through the time but how and what to do to " buy "/ acquire those characteristics. 

Paladin posted:

"""   Someone who can walk into a listening room & detect imperfections in a system (like a tweeter off axis/plane, too much boom in bass, an anemic amp etc.).
I have only met one such person in my 50 years in this hobby & am lucky enough to have him as a friend who has helped me develop great sound over the past 20 years - THANKS TED! """

We want to know how/which kind of experiences and training had Ted over his audio life to arrive to T E A  status.

Target here is to learn how we can to achieve T E A   status in the shortest time we can. To know where to start the T E A   process, learn the fine points to do it and to self training to be educated as a T E A  .

That learning/training T E A process will gives us huge rewards as never we can imagine we can have.
Those rewards will put our audio listening day by day experiences as higher as any one can want it.

At the end of the T E A quest HERE WILL BE ONLY WINNERS AND NO SINGLE PERSON THAT WAS 0R FEELS DEAFETED !!!!!


So, we need that every one shares his detailed audio system experiences with the rewards they aquired.

I know many people in this forum and other forums that have higher knowledge level in audio subjects than many of us. Even I was ( USA ) and meet some of them at their places and their contributions will be appreciated by each one of us.

Please feel free to post and don't be shy remember that here we are not evaluating to any one or any one audio system but trying to LEARN from every one experiences. This is a team work.

It's clear that all of us know a lot less that what we think we know. That's why exist so many audio forums throught the net and that's why so many audio thread with different kind of discussions where normally each one of us have a diferent opinion, many times just opinions with out real foundations.

Designers, profesional reviewers, audio distributors are welcomed, it's an open an UNBIASED  thread.

Seems to me that we already have the audiophile definition and moonglum posted :

“Is a T.E.A. an expert in sound/recorded music or an expert in equipment and its application?” 

so, we can assume that there are different kind/type of audiophiles. Could be important try to diferenciate in between and from here go on in the T E A quest.

Can we go on or you have a better " road " to?

Regards and enjoy the music,
R.


Dear wlutke: """  Thinking that this thread can somehow make us all a genius is a flawed premise. """

That's not the premise. The premise is how all can grow up faster in the right path to the quest of " audio heaven ". Tha's all.

No one can arrives there alone and working as a team we can do better learning from the " ones " that know how to do it. Don't you think?


Regards and enjoy the music,
R.