Mitch4t, I guess it is pixels versus sample rate, which is kind of apple v. oranges. But I don't know either. |
In a recent Stereophile, they argue that streaming audio is the wave but high definition seems way into the future. Also, what is available for streaming, is unlikely to satisfy the tastes of many listeners. I would much rather have 700 of my preferred discs or high definition downloads. |
Mapman, no I don't have any figures, Stereophile, if I recall does have figures about its growth. I am reconciled to realize that modern culture has passed me by. I cannot stand most modern music. I deliberately did not quantify my statement.
I am listening now to double DSD from my server. Of course listening to 44.1 at double DSD upsampling moves the filter dramatically upward revealing much heretofore unheard realism. And SACDs if they are real upgrades, are outstanding. |
You remind me of my grandson listening to Pink Floyd on ear buds. I took him up to my listening room and played the vinyl version. His comment was it doesn't sound like the same recording. But for his convenience he went back to listening to the ear buds. You can lead a horse to water but you cannot make him drink. |
Tomcy6, Sony's decision to convert all it master tapes to quad DSD is certainly added emphasis. The new unit I have comes from Empirical Audio Legacy. My previous unit fooled Itunes into thinking it was runninng the music but it was only to use their organization. It ran in up to 192/24 PCM.
I expect that down loads will be the future also and that at some point you will be able to buy quad DSDs which will be mastertapes. |
Audioengr, I had not heard of the Antipodes. Maybe I'll get a chance to hear one.
Getting rid of the switching ps on the Mac is necessary as is dependence on Itunes.
I think SONY's going with quad DSD for their mastertapes, all but assures DSD is the future. I have compared double DSD with 192/24 PCM and somewhat prefer double DSD, but 44.1/16 is a real loser realitive to double DSD and especially if compared with a hybrid SACD to 44.1/16 versus DSD and both bumped to double DSD. |
Mitch4t, are you sure that streaming hi-def video is a difficult as hi-def audio? I certainly have never heard at CES any streaming demonstrations that were close to high definition audio, such as PCM 192/24 or native DSD. |
Audioengr, Last night I compared several cds on my server as well as several HDTracks, and three DSD downloads from SACDs. I each was played in PCM for whatever sampling rate they were in to double DSD. In the case of the SACD it was there cd counterpart. Frankly I was shocked at how superior double DSD was over even HDTracks PCM.
Live with your PCM and I will with my double DSD. |
Mapman, simple this is all untrue. Soon mastertapes will all be quad DSD. As to the hardware causing the impossibility of comparing PCM v. DSD, we will see. The Sabre chip actually has two dacs, one for PCM and one for DSD.
But sound is the only truth. |
Mapman, true but some do hear the same. Basically, I go to shows with at least two who do. |
Detlof, thanks. I hasten to say that my server is from Empirical Audio Legacy which is distinct from Empirical Audio, although they used to be together.
I hate when people say bits are bits. How many times have I heard amazing differences when others say it is impossible as "bits are bits."
I am now hearing digital that makes me want to yell "bravo!" after so many cuts that my wife might have be put in a home. |
Mapman, yes but none are high definition, at least not in the 192/24 PCM format or DSD native or above.
I'm not saying that this might not be convenient, just not approaching vinyl realism or better. |
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Mapman, this guy is a pro-audio guy, but is moving toward an audiophile level music server. Mine presently is about the size of a Mac Mini, but has oppamps and inexpensive clocks. Soon I will get the four outboard linear power supplies, quite accurate clocks, and two computers built in with one doing only audio and the other the other over 1000 tasks that on other machines are also done by the one computer. It will also use JRiver's MC 19 and should by then be capable of quad DSD with the filters well beyond audibility or even sensitivity to sounds.
I should also note that the unit I presently have has three SACDs where it is on in both with and without treatment using Essence of Music. The treatment is far superior. I am treating 50 more and will have them added to what is on my harddrive.
I am using my Mac Powerbook Pro to remotely control the Mac Mini using Teamviewer |
Bo1972, are they both 192/24 PCM? |
