Are high sample rates making your music sound worse?


ishkabibil

Showing 9 responses by geoffkait

Just to mention that the figures touted for CD SNR and Dynamic Range of 90 dB or more are strictly theoretical. In practice the ordinary drawbacks of the playback system and room not to mention the *intentional overly aggressive dynamic range compression* that’s fairly rampant in the industry over the past twenty years or so obviously limits those numbers. How much? Answer at 11.
Where is the evidence Snopes is nothing more than a bunch of mud-raking know-nothings? What would they know about the Green Pen? I’m guessing about as much as you do. No offense to you personally.
That’s funny. You throw your hat in the ring. But maybe throwing in the towel does make more sense. 😛
I already gave you my answer. I don’t get involved in these “what about this? what about that?” type discussions.
mzkmxcv
“I listen, and I’ve never heard a difference with going to 24Bit or changing speaker wires (well, I admit nothing fancy like $5000 cables). Now, if you hear a difference, whose right? Well, since simple math and measurements shows that we shouldn’t hear a difference, I would argue I am.”

>>>>In the example you gave I’d say he’s right, not you. Lots of people cannot hear lots of things. You can’t prove a negative. Nothing succeeds like success. 🤗

If a DSD disc sounds better than disc X who cares whether it’s because of the DSD per se or because of a better mastering job? Hel-loo!
Snopes? Yeah, that’s a real reliable source. 😛 This must be your first rodeo, cowpoke. 🤠
@geoffkait

Maybe if you bought a CD player at a dollar store. A $75 Blu-Ray player will output the same bits as a $10,000 CD player, only differences are jitter, which even a “cheap” DAC will reduce to below -100dBFS.

>>>>>The only differences are jitter? You mean like jitter caused by ordinary vibration of the CD transport and very low frequency seismic vibration? And jitter produced by scattered background laser light? Lol 😝

Not sure if you know, you can literally drill a hole in a CD and it will not change anything. CD has a lot of protection against faults.

>>>>I’ll take your word for it. I have not punched a hole in any CDs lately. One thing the CD player can’t deal with are radial scratches. No protection against that. Also, there’s no protection against random noise as can be deduced by painting the CD outer edge green and using your ears. Reed Solomon only gets you so far. Perfect sound forever. LOL
I’m saying even if the bits are the same it can and will sound different. In the real world, a world populated by real audiophiles bits are not bits. The laser reads bumps and lands, for one thing, not zeros and ones. So, what you’re calling bits are even bits to begin with. Hel-loo! A lot can happen between the time the laser reads the physical bumps and lands and the time the data is converted to an analog signal.