yes new b$w are overpriced but they are exceptional speakers in all respects,as a former owner of 802 d’s ,now focal 1038 Be’s I will be looking to pick up a set of 800 d2 ‘s soon ,mainly because my wife and son (25 y) miss them a lot.in mho I would look for the 800 d series that are 2-5 years old. Most people who pay the new price keep excellent care of them and are like new in most cases .