Apogee versus German Physics


Has anyone had a chance to hear GERMAN PHYSIKS speakers like the LORELEY, or the GAUDI. I would like to known if they sound similar or even better than a pair of FULL RANGE APOGEE tri-amplified with KRELL KRS200, wich is what I own. I am very eclectic in musical taste; I listen to anything as long as i think it is very good, from classical to rock'n'roll....
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I have a five way german physics system with loreley main borderland center and legato rears.They are by far superior to the apogee.No comparison at all.As far as warping damage,yes they are easy to warp but has absolutly no impact on sound.In the Loreley the cones are not susceptible to warping that only apply to the speakers such as legato or borderland were the cone are exposed.I have been an audiophile for the last four decades owened and listened to a great number of high end systems,I listen to primarily classical music.To my ears the Loreley speakers are the most satisfying.The first set of speakers in which I could truly enjoy the sound of symphonic music.My system can be seen in the virtual system on audiogon.
A quick update,I have had warping of the DDD in my legato and borderland done by the cleaning help.However that does NOT impact the sound and is easy to straighten out.However I recently had stainless steel covers installed over the DDD making them totally secure,one can also has the option of cloth covers.They are easy to install and can be obtained from german physics in germany.The Loreley speakers come with covers.I have played these speakers at very high volume they are instructible.I happen to have JM utopia speakers they are definitly very inferior to the german physics speakers.Properly powered these speakers are unbeatable for classical music audiophiles.
this is addresed to sirspeedy.I have auditioned the loreleys in manhattan,the set up was extremly bad,primarily his cross over was set poorly ,poor amps,and like you said poor room.I know all of this because I purchased these speakers,and had the cross over adjusted for linearity and for my room.I am primarily classical music listener,with limited Jazz,this speaker can reproduce music with,imaging, speed ,clarity,and dynamics second to none.
to unsound,omni speakers such as the german physics do not have sweet spots sound and imaging is good independent of location. Used to live for thirty years with different electro static speakers very placement dependent.The same apply to ribbon speakers or most front firing speakers.
to usound your absolutly right,the only placement issue is the mid low frequency below 200hz where the woofers take over.One of the challenges in driving the Loreleys is the driving the the bass section having to power four 12in.woofers from 180hz down is not easy,and requires very powerful amps.On the other hand were the speakers excell is in the total sound uniformity to mid and low frequency going down all the way to below 20Hz.
In addition I beleive the less crossovers the better off you are.Also an electronic X-over gives better ballance between the speakers handling the different frequencies.
When performing a spectral time analysis on my system except for the excellent linearity across the frequency range,the lack of ringing after impulse inputs where very significant,ringing will lead to distortion and fuzzy imaging.I do not know whether the absence of any ringing is the speakers or the combination of amps and speakers.