I'm one of the lucky ones that have a local place that has the Focal Utopia Grande speakers in the store and are willing to let common people listen to them. I've heard them alone and with a JL Audio subwoofer, I think it was the Gothom. I've also had the opportunity to hear the Chorus 706v, 816v & 836v speakers on the same system. I personally prefer the Utopia Diablo's, but all three of the Utopia's that I've heard are amazing.