Anybody heard Galibier or JC Verdier turntables?

Dougy,how could you come to the conclusion,from my post,that I have ever heard both tables together.Re-read my post,and it is clear that you misinterpreted my point.You seem to do that often,but I still love you.
Also,the business of bearing friction should be obvious to anyone in the hobby for a length of time.Hmm-:)
BTW,I'm making no judgements about the supposedly wonderful Galiber,as I've not heard one,and don't know alot about the design,other than it seems to be similar to the Teres.Though I like it's looks,and lack of wood better.Just my taste.Which should mean nothing,as you must remember I'm the expert on the finest of "cheap wines"!So what do I know!

Hey Doug,Dan is nice enough to admit to feeling my pain.How about you?-:)

It's Saturday night.Don't be such a "technical" stick in the mud!Have a nice cheap bottle of Beringers Chardonnay,or perhaps some Chateau St Jean Reisling.Well they're not "that" cheap,but they went well with my Tai dinner.At least my wife liked them.

Best!

Dear "Sir Douglas",unless you have compared the two tables in A/B comparisons,you are merely speculating as to what should sound like what!Also,an "important" aspect of the PV bearing system(or lack of)is that there will be no friction,like a good air bearing design.This surely will have a beneficial impact on performance.That is the "selling point",not reliability.
Sort of like your second favorite tonearm,s "claim to fame",the lack of a bearing resonant signature which negatively impacts the harmonic structure of music.
I'm assuming this,by now,based upon the time frame I was given,can be confirmed by the "probably great by now" Cello's system(not that it was chopped liver when I heard it).I'm assuming,of course,that he has gotten a nice package from Germany!!
But you most likely know this already. -:)

PS-I hope my post does not get too bad a "shrug" from the "great Paul",since you surely must know,by now,that my set-up has been down for a couple of months,and MR Scorpion is getting agitated,and may be waking again. -:)

Best regards!
Mark

I don't see any real threat to a table owner's security regarding bearing friction or wear,providing it comes from a reliable,proven manufacturer.No problemo with any mentioned in these threads,as far as I'm concerned.
Just take a look at some of the "mega heavy platter" offerings on the market.Some going for big,bigger,biggest bucks.Though a heavier platter will most likely wear the bearing sooner,I haven't heard of many that do this for a "long time",and if the manufacturer is a responsible one,there's no problem in correcting it.

To my way of thinking,the "type of bearing" design should have a direct impact on perceived sound,along with a myriad of other parameters,obviously.Yet,since we are talking "bearings" my feelings are,that the best sounding bearing is "almost no bearing".Sort of!!Like a well designed opposing magnet design,for simplicity,in no friction.Or,a really great air bearing,which adds the "pain in the tush factor",like pumps and hosing,but will sound "fabs".You've got to go big bucks for the Walkers/Rockports/Continuum.As well as big "dough" for the Blue Pearl and Platine Verdiers of the world.I wish I had the money and "lazy day time" on my hands to simply play with all the stuff I've come to be a fan of.
This leaves a nice gap for the Galibers/Teres'/Sotas/Basis' to come into play.All great stuff!Simple and reliable goes a long way!
To me,the "table bearing issue" is likened to the "tonearm bearing issue".The closer you can get to "almost" no bearing,the better the sound "should" be.
It's been proven to me through listening,in arms,and this is why I love the better Air Bearing designs.Yet I am still willing to bet the house on very similar performance from the Schroder Ref,even though I may NEVER hear it.I just like it's design appeal,and there has been too many raves about it,to disbelieve any of it.
I already told my offspring I want my epitaph to read--"A fairly good tennis player,who NEVER heard a Schroder"!-:)

Yeah,I know I'm going overboard,but as I've mentioned in other posts,my system is getting updates,and won't be up for another month.I have little else to do,except to bug some of you.Sorry!!

Best!