Any thoughts on the CD "trimmer"


I have read good feedback on the Audiodesk(I think that's what it's name is)CD trimmer.Supposedly many/most CD's are not round,and this aids in a perfectly round trim,as well as creating a correct edge angle.Does this thing really help sound?

Thanks!
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Showing 2 responses by zaikesman

Anybody: I've never messed around with treating CDs in any way. But to those who've found a difference (good or bad) treating them with markers, how exactly should I go about this tweak if I want to experiment? I'll burn 2 copies of a test disk, treat one, and compare the treated and untreated versions and post back here.

Albert: You say Krell confirmed your finding that "overhead halogen lights, shining through the Plexiglas lid of their MD10 CD transport, affected the bit stream to the D-to-A converter". This implies that they actually found a change in the measured datastream, and also that they controlled for any effect that such lighting fixtures may have on the powerline (presumably by measuring the data with the lights on, versus with the lights still on, but blocked from shining into the player). I hope that is the case, otherwise it seems to me no causal link could be established. Of course, as you also indicated, either way this probably has little relevance for the vast majority of disk-players made.

Mlsstl: You wrote "I've also compared the audio quality of CD's to bit-for-bit verified hard drive copies (which involve zero light of any kind) and heard no differences". While I can't do the bit-verification thing, using my Alesis MasterLink with its digital output fed to a Theta DAC, I've compared the 'live' playback of CDs with that of the same CDs ripped to the unit's internal hard-drive, and they don't sound the same (the hard-drive sounds better -- but both sound inferior to the same CDs played 'live' on a Theta transport).
Thanks Albert. Not saying I either doubt or believe your hypothesis, but those tests as you describe them aren't sufficient to establish causality (they don't measure the datastream, and aren't controlled to eliminate psychology as a possible cause). But I'm not very surprised that Krell decided there was indeed a problem (even if it wasn't known to be a measureable problem, it was still a potential PR problem due to audiophile word of mouth), though I am a bit surprised that they then didn't completely 'fix' it by simply installing a fully opaque cover.