oleschool,
This is one of the main reasons one should have a platform between the springs and the supporting structure.( I have a Classic 3 Sig. SE, with his springs) I know what I'm talking about.
Cheers.
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bdp, I appreciate your research and your arguments for one way or another. Having said that, they (are) just that, since, and correct me if I'm wrong, you have not tried any of these items in your system?
I've always found that no matter how much science backs up one theory or how much a manufacturer backs up their own theory/product, it really doesn't matter until you try it out for yourself in your own system/environment. Then you can confidently report on how it sounds in your specific system.
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foq , has some fairly new "ball-in-cup" devices made out of different materials that should be well worth checking out. Pricey but very effective from what I've been told.
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Can you explain your last remark in "layman's" terms? Thanks.
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geoffkait,
How do you correlate your remarks you made in the "TT Isolation" thread on 03/07/2016, and the remark above? Thanks.
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oleschool,
I suggest trying things for yourself. ( this is the best form of education). For all of the products, the theories, the best intentioned responses, ... nothing beats trying things out in your own system/room. Especially when the product is fairly inexpensive.
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geoffkait,
Your "twist and shout , rock and roll" remarks made your previous remarks confusing. I'm not sure if I still understand your last response.
Thanks.
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..this allows some leveling between the TT and the platform. Other benefits are had, depending upon what type of platform, etc...
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oleschool,
I think you can understand why I prefer my method of trying items for myself... as opposed to seeking a simple reason for a specific products' reason for being!
Again, Good Luck!
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OK?? How does this response plus your response in the thread addressed above make sense to all of us "earthlings"?
Thanks.
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Also, to show I'm a believer in Geoffkait's springs, in addition to my tt set-up. I've incorporated them in my amp/power conditioner/rack set-up.
I am using a Solid Steel 5.2 rack, dedicated to my amp and my Hydra. I use a 3" maple platform with 3 Mapleshade carpet piercing footers, then I've drilled 1/8" deep mating holes for another 1& 1/2" maple platform to accommodate the (4) Super Stiff Springs. This is my support structure for the Solis Steel rack. (Still, within my rack, I have a platform for these components and high quality footers.)
Upon making these changes to accommodate the (SSPs), my system evolved tremendously!
I'm thinking about doing a similar thing with my dual subs.
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geoffkait,
To address the question I had above...
You made a comment on TT Isolation thread, remarking about having things moving in several opposing direction/motions.
When I made reference to that thread, your first remark was "good catch". You later posted "I dunno, what did I say in that thread"?
Some of us, including me who wonder, may find (your own) statements in conflict.
Once you seemed to recognize my remembering something you said, then you ask (me) what you said.
This is very confusing.
(I like your products that I've tried. I'm not bashing. I am just asking for clarity? To at once make a remark, seemingly admitting what you said in a recent thread, then asking me later, to tell you what you said in that thread is remarkable.)
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oleschool,
I regret, the remark I made earlier, "I know what I'm talking about". I should have said, I know what I'm hearing in my system based on trying various things with my wall mount set-up:
VPI Classic 3 Sig SE
3" maple platform
Symposium Ultra
Stillpoints Ultra SS
Edensound Terestone footers
Machina Dynamica Super Stiff Springs
MANA Acoustics wall mounting system, (has extreme flexibility, can swap in and out various aftermarket footers such as Stillpoints, Edensound, spikes, etc....)
a combination of all the above, switched in and out.
I do consider the springs a "must have" for a wall mounting system.
I've personally always found that with tts especially, "life made easier" by having the flexibility to level the tt without all of the hassle of, in the case of the springs, finding the exact positioning underneath the tt for the correct level to be achieved.
It could be argued either way as to what is best, a platform under the tt or just the springs. Much more flexibility using a platform. I've made my choice and I'm very happy with it.
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I was just making a rough calculation, in my head, regarding the money I've invested in audio over the last 30 years. For what it's worth:
Components/cables vs. Isolation = pretty much 50/50
Acoustic treatments, much less but have a MAJOR effect, way beyond their relative price points. The effect on musical satisfaction is out of this world when done right.
Music vs. equipment, right now, probably 60/40, leaning towards equipment. This will surely change in the opposite direction.
Happy listening all.
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geofflait,
It seems to me that my postings above would give you a (reason) to look back at the comments you made.
Why am I seemingly now, somehow, a person who has posted favorable results of your product, now, under scrutiny (by you) to prove what you previously said?
The proof is in the reading of (your past posts). I've posted where your remarks could easily be found and earlier you seemed to admit by you stating "good catch". It's not up to me to do more than what I've thoughtfully posted. Being a fan of your own products, you still want to make me prove what you said in the past and then make me prove how it's relevant to this discussion? When you could easily look into this yourself, instead, you choose to put some sort of, as you state, "drama" imposed by me?
As a prospective consumer of your products, this action by you, that could have been abated by you, would make me think twice about purchasing from you.
I'm out!
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