Any exp. w/ Shunyata Dark Field Cable Elevators

Davt, just an fyi if you don't mind, since you've taken the time to share your strong opinion.

The DFE's are made largely of conductive foam, which is in no way considered a "cheap" material by those that use it to ship electronic parts. There is also a mold involved in their manufacture, and other stiff foam material that forms the core part of the DFE.

Raw material costs for the DFE's are well above our normal x5 production to retail ratio, and there is the cost of packaging, support, documentation etc. Of course the final price includes some small measure of development expense, overhead, economy of scale etc.

I understand how you came to your judgement by mere appearance. However, none of our products are cheaply made, run off spools or or grossly overpriced based on our costs to produce them. I don't mind people having preferences or valuing a competitors less expensive product, but it has _nothing_ to do with us overpricing anything we make.

From your description, you must think of us living the high life with Regis, rather than in the reality of a small dedicated business with a commitment to delivering high quality products and service.

Regards,

Grant
Shunyata Research

My only purpose here was to address ill informed comments about the price and manufacturing cost of our products based on what I know to be true. I don't want to get into product comparisons and tech descriptions related to our products in a commercial forum as that seems out of line with the purpose of the forum.

If you have specific product or technical questions for us, feel free to contact us directly and we'd be happy to answer your inquiry via phone or e-mail.

Regards,

Grant

Dear 'Spaz',

>>>Davt, why roll over and play dead.Grant is making you sound like the bad guy<<<

Where do you get that? Davt asked questions, I answered them. He stated an opinion based on incomplete information. I informed him with what I know to be the truth. My last comment was intended as humor, nothing more. I had no intention of making anyone sound like a "bad guy".

>>>"I know in my system Shunyata products did nothing for me"<<<

That's fine. That is why I expend great effort in setting up trials and no-risk evals for people that call or write looking for dealers.

No manufacturer selling the type of product referred to here makes "a killing" by any meaning of that term. Like many things, the DFE's started as an in house project for personal use, and grew into a commercial idea from there. They are available for trial, so no-one is being taken in.

Mark up is well within reason given the costs of production, but then everyone has their own, often context-less idea of what "reasonable" is in terms of mark up. It is curious that the strongest opinions are often proffered by those with little idea what any sum of parts and materials would _have to_ cost at retail for any product to remain viable in this market, much less turn a profit.

Most products in any category within this hobby are purchased only after careful trial and comparisons. I have no issue with anyone making different choices. I do have a problem with people that casually accuse us of grossly inflated pricing without any understanding of what actual costs are that go into _any_ commercial product release. No one has to be "the bad guy", and I never implied that Davt was.

>>>"There in it to make money???"<<<

I really could not have put it, or spelled it any better myself, spaz. This is not the vocation most would choose if money is a primary motivation. Thank you for stating the obvious.

Grant
Shunyata Research