have had a pair for 48 hours. they're not reference caliber ,but are surprisingly enjoyable. volume levels thru cerwin-vega dx-7's, aq opal ic's, aural symphonics purple v3 spkrcable,and aural sy missing link pc's, making conversation difficult without loosing fidelity. you get what you pay for, and they play bigger and richer than i'd anticipated. bass is there,nice mids, and highs not out of control. gonna put some vampire binding posts and cardas rca's on 'em. kurt