brettmcee,
"Educate yourself and read more accurately." I educate myself daily and read very accurately to the dismay of some. I just educated myself about your work. At least I think I got it right as the work you imply and your name here nicely align with what I think is your website. I can see why you are so confident that you added entertainment to many people’s lives. You surely have. Not to mine, but you do get credit for others’. Now, if you could do Despicable Me, you could add me to the list of happy admirers. Until then, just another guy who does work I am not interested in. I am glad it works for you.
EDIT: Your website looks nice. Simple and easy. However, "view resume" link does not work.
If the pictures on your blog are anything to go by, you do have what most of the less-fortunate people would consider an "expensive taste". |
brettmcee,
Don't take jsautter's comments as an attack. They do not seem to be. They are more like some kind of a guidance.
It is good to be proud of your work and you should be. However, once you start flaunting it around, it becomes a little slippery. It becomes about who is a bigger boy. And the person on the other side of your computer screen, the one to whose life you have added some entertainment, might have added some years to your life. Then it becomes a joke and you do not want to feel like your work is less valuable. Stay away from bragging about it.
Other things are fine, they are your opinions regardless of who agrees or disagrees with you. |
There have been many inventions but considering snatching tape recording as one of the culprits for World War II is a bit of a stretch. It makes for a nice cocktail party trivia, though. |
bretmcee, There is no doubt that room has a lot to do with final performance. I suspect that the world's most expensive speakers may not sound as the world's best speakers once placed in the mountain cave, but overall the price does follow "quality". There may be items that are slightly better ("better" being "I like them more") while slightly less expensive than others. Still, this thread is full of generalizations and not many examples. By the way, this definition may have, a fatal flaw... "...to increase the enjoyment gained from the reproduction of sound in ones own private listening space." It would exclude anyone who listens, or tries to improve something, anywhere else but in own private listening space. Concession should be made for headphone listening in public transport, I guess. Also, do not forget that just owning a pair of speakers, not a Bose radio but separate pair of speakers, is a luxury in many/most of the people's minds. It is, to some extent, a wasteful indulgence. A hobby of those spoiled few who do not care about money. Spending $500 for a pair of speakers is about the same as spending $500 000. Unnecessary in a grand scheme of things. Number is different, but anything is too much anyway. Add prices of all three pairs of your speakers (or how many more you have) and you will get the actual price of your "speakers" for the purpose of "cheap vs. expensive" argument and socio-economic debate raging here. |
erik_squires,
It is just me who noticed improvement (at least what seemed to be an improvement to me) with increase of the price of some component. I give it benefit of the doubt that it may not be always so, but examples are hard to find. It is always vague for some reason.
Of course, I am also not talking about $50 Bluetooth speaker vs. $200 000 speaker although it would be another example of "expensive happens to be better". I have been to a show, or two, and have also compared a few systems in the same store. Naively, more expensive ones were better. To me at that time.
If you can get Luxman 509X to hear at your home, you might like it more than your current one. The difference in price may be noticeable.
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World War II had almost nothing to do with accurate (whatever that means) reproduction of sound. I would bet on that. |
There has been a lot of "it does not have to be expensive" statements here. Can anyone give some examples that she/he thinks most of the people could recognize? Maybe not $1000 vs $1100 difference, but something more obvious. $1000 vs. $5000 or something in that direction.
I have never heard an item that was more expensive than the other one while sounding worse. I have not heard it on the $200-300 level and I have not heard it on much higher (price) level. It may be bias or whatever else, but it has, so far, been the rule. More expensive sounded better to me.
Please give us examples so we know what we are really talking about.
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Would AudiogoN forum be considered a "very reputable source"? There are no better ones on this topic anyway. The only problem would be that this reputable source is in disarray of opinions. |
"...do the world a favor and contact Dictionary.com or Wikipedia and try to persuade them on something that fits your liking." Did rules on Wikipedia change? It used to be that you could edit things. Even I did a few. I am tempted to try to change definition of "audiophile" to "the one who babbles on AudiogoN". |
"But if I did make some babies, still might, my wife and I would raise..." Oh my, if you really do not have children yet, and will have them some day, brace for impact. You may be in for a dose of frustration, surprise, maybe even disappointment, and a few more descriptors of defeat. |
vinny55, "...@n80 you should be selling used cheap scrapyard 70s cars instead of commenting on audio forums." Why did you pick "cheap"? Reading n80's comments, one would expect you to pick "expensive exotic" rather than "cheap scrapyard". |
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"Sorry wealthy people if I hurt your feelings. Buy something, you’ll feel better." Not knowing what "wealthy" is for you, your advice to many of us is hard to follow. We already have everything we want. |
brettmcee,
You are mixing things up a bit. You are equaling being a child from a wealthy family with being allowed to do anything or actually buying anything. At the same time, there are many out here who were allowed to do anything and were never told "no" by their parents, regardless of financial status, who are now healthy and productive citizens.
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"...the children of the very wealthy. They end up as not very healthy or productive citizens right? If you can do anything, afford anything, you do not learn to make good decisions. Period." What gung-ho motivational speaker’s book was this copied from? |
‘Music Lover’ is not a synonym of ‘Audiophile’. And in its very founding, America is all about ‘less privilege’ and minimizing the prevalence privileged classes (i.e. Kings, Queens, Lords).America has forgotten to be critical of the wealthy,
It seems that America also forgot that you can be a music lover or audiophile elsewhere. |
"Otherwise, audiophiles are reduced to consumers of a particular type of product. How miserably impoverishing that POV is to me." Sad as it may be, but that is the reality for most of the people out there. Unless you actually build your own equipment. |
Bose is phenomenal. It actually made people buy things because they sounded better. First Bose Wave Radio presentations were all about quality of sound, including some sort of blind test/evaluation.
So, if you have a Bose radio in the kitchen, let the chef enjoy being an audiophile. Unless cooking is your hobby, too.
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Bingo. It belongs even to those who paid a lots of money for their systems. They may not be called fools anymore. They are audiophiles. |
viny55, "Douglas’s Ducati doesnt produce the deep bass of Bachs organ music like a Sansui tube amplifier does." Does Douglas’ Yamaha do that? Maybe you could check it against that Sansui. You never know, you may be surprised. Also, unless something has changed recently, Elizabeth has Ford, not Porsche. |
brettmcee,
Not everybody who owns a nice car or expensive (whatever you deem expensive) sound system is a gullible dummy. Not at all.
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vinny55,
For most of the people out there, almost $4000 is a lots of money to spend on music reproduction. n80 is correct on all accounts. You need to spend a lots of money to have an "audiophile" system. Your $4000 (or a bit less) is actually bordering on outrageous.
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