Amplifier suggestion for Dynaudio Sapphire

By the I found a second hand ref-210 and ref 3. Generally solidstates had been recommended, but what do you think about this pre-pro ?

Thank's for your advices, it really helps. At least lead me to some directions to research.

Missioncoonery I cannot agree anymore with you about the ARC stuff. For cables, I am planning as a last action. I am satisfied with my sources(cd player and turntable). I am not sure about my amp., and I think I am right. After finding the amp, I will look for the cables.

BAT is not an available product where I live, so it is out of equation.

Today I made a demo with EAR 890+868, and Musical Fidelity AMS 50 power+primo pre. Musical Fidelity gear is very very good.

Weekend I am planning to demo ASR, Pass and Krell.

Keithr, using classe as a pre is a good option. It never cross my mind. Also my Ear cd player can be use as a pre(it has a valve output). This way I may have a two pre's one ss, one tube. I think this way seems more reasonable. My only hasitation is, I am sure that I cannot find all the right models in Pass, Krell in my country.

Whatever, this is the best part of this hobby. Researching,taking advices from other audiophiles, making demos, researching again and again.....I love this game :)

Superb midrange, very tight bass, crystal clear ups, coherent, neutral

Missioncoonery I heart them both. I made compariton side by side with c4 and sapphire. Amp. was Plinius sa-ref, Musical Fidelity Primo. All cables audioquest well signiture or white series. Source was Project Extension, Ortofon Perwinfeld cartridge, Plinius Koru phono stage. C4 was better in the lf, in the midrange section sapphire was far more better for my taste. Both of them were good. But because of the room size and waf factor I ended with sapphire. Because they are limited, I did not hesitate to buy. IMO in second hand market they may have a better value then C4, not only for their limited production, because of their size, waf friendly type vs.vs.

Keithr I heart the 25 special edition too. Not side by side but IMO 25 th and sapphire plays little bit forward then usual dynaudio sound. Stereophile reviewer JA, mentioned about that treeble issue. He needed to grilled on/off because of this treeble issue. I am listening sapphire for a limited time with my classe grilled off. I never need to put them, I never feel the same way about the treeble like JA. Room acoustic, electronics, cables change lots of things off course, but from my experience untill now I can say that yes it is little bit forward but no metalic sound or harshness in treeble, on the contrary it is suberb. I will take care your recommendation about krell. Thank's

Nextlevelav thank's for the info. If it is not a problem, would you write us what Burmester electronics did you use ? Also maybe your are selling Musical Fideltiy electronics too, and you may have an idea about mathcing sapphires with ams 50+primo.