Hey all,
Thanks for all your replies. One thing I want to pass on is that the problem with DC induced hum is no indication of the quality of the toroidal transformer. Since I have isolated the problem, the Belles mono-blocks are dead quiet and my old trusty 150A Reference is very quiet, albeit I can hear a slight hum when I put my ear about 6 inches away. Since I don't listen to music with my ear on my amp, it's not a problem.
This is from the Bryston website:
"DC Offset
All power transformers work with AC. DC (direct current) cannot make the flux changes required to sustain a transferable magnetic field. Under normal conditions DC does not exist on power lines. However, because of nasty things like cheap lighting dimmer switches, sometimes a small DC component can occur on an AC line. Because toroidal cores are so efficient, they sustain magnetic flux easily. DC offset on an AC line will eventually cause the toroidal core to go into saturation by continually driving the core into one direction. This sounds bad both literally and figuratively. But, itÂ’s rare and there are easy solutions."
Another thing I read is that the larger the transformer (the higher the VA rating), the more susceptible to DC induced hum. I guess that's why my mono-blocks were so much louder than the 150A Ref, and probably why an old low wattage Adcom I have laying around isn't affected as much. Hey, I've plugged just about everything I have to check out this problem.
Foster 9,
After 29 years, you have to have something to argue about. I guess if it weren't for my audio idiosyncricies, I'd be the perfect husband. (LOL)
Jea48,
I'm looking into an isolation transformer for that circuit. Something I can put safely in the attic. One thing I have been researching are the magnetic transformers for 12/24V vs. the cheaper electronic transformer. The kitchen lights I was having problems with have the cheap electronic transformer built into in them.
Rleff,
Since the lights are on a different circuit, there would no difference in the AC voltage readings. Even if I were to take AC V readings of that light circuit, I seriously doubt there would be much change off or on, since those lights have such a minimal amperage draw. Measuring AC and DC at the same time is beyond the abilities of my tester. I think you would need a pretty sophisticated piece of equipment to be able to measure DC V leakage into an AC circuit.
Thanks for all your replies. One thing I want to pass on is that the problem with DC induced hum is no indication of the quality of the toroidal transformer. Since I have isolated the problem, the Belles mono-blocks are dead quiet and my old trusty 150A Reference is very quiet, albeit I can hear a slight hum when I put my ear about 6 inches away. Since I don't listen to music with my ear on my amp, it's not a problem.
This is from the Bryston website:
"DC Offset
All power transformers work with AC. DC (direct current) cannot make the flux changes required to sustain a transferable magnetic field. Under normal conditions DC does not exist on power lines. However, because of nasty things like cheap lighting dimmer switches, sometimes a small DC component can occur on an AC line. Because toroidal cores are so efficient, they sustain magnetic flux easily. DC offset on an AC line will eventually cause the toroidal core to go into saturation by continually driving the core into one direction. This sounds bad both literally and figuratively. But, itÂ’s rare and there are easy solutions."
Another thing I read is that the larger the transformer (the higher the VA rating), the more susceptible to DC induced hum. I guess that's why my mono-blocks were so much louder than the 150A Ref, and probably why an old low wattage Adcom I have laying around isn't affected as much. Hey, I've plugged just about everything I have to check out this problem.
Foster 9,
After 29 years, you have to have something to argue about. I guess if it weren't for my audio idiosyncricies, I'd be the perfect husband. (LOL)
Jea48,
I'm looking into an isolation transformer for that circuit. Something I can put safely in the attic. One thing I have been researching are the magnetic transformers for 12/24V vs. the cheaper electronic transformer. The kitchen lights I was having problems with have the cheap electronic transformer built into in them.
Rleff,
Since the lights are on a different circuit, there would no difference in the AC voltage readings. Even if I were to take AC V readings of that light circuit, I seriously doubt there would be much change off or on, since those lights have such a minimal amperage draw. Measuring AC and DC at the same time is beyond the abilities of my tester. I think you would need a pretty sophisticated piece of equipment to be able to measure DC V leakage into an AC circuit.