Ampli choice : tenor dartzeel etc need your exper


I'm searching an amplifiers (max 12000$ new or second hands)
that can feet my B&W802D (90dB efficiency).
It can be tube, solid state or hybrid.

I've made some research, i hesitate between:
-tenor 150 hps
-dartzeel (only 100 watts is it enough?)
-audio research VTM-200
-Manley neo classic 300

What would you choose?

Please if replies can be made if you have at least compare two of them, it will be constructive (no "i have this one, i never listen to other....but it's the best!")

I you have other suggestions,you'rewelcomebut be sure of what you suggest.

Thanx in advance for your help
samuel33

Showing 1 response by mikelavigne

hi Samuel, welcome to AudiogoN.

you really cannot go wrong with any of those choices.....great list.

it might be helpful to know the size of your room and the preamp you plan on using as at the level of your speakers and amps synergy will play a large part of any recommendations.

personally; i have owned the Hybrid Tenor 300 monoblocks (essentially a more powerful version of the 150) and i now own darTZeel. i have listened to both the Manley and ARC a few times. i have also listened to the B&W 802D but not with those amps specifically.

my opinion is that the Tenor and darTZeel are considerably more expensive at retail list price than either the Manley or ARC......and in this case you get what you pay for. the Tenor and dart are at a considerably higher level of refinement, detail and clarity than the other 2.....and more neutral and natural sounding. i would want to know more about the rest of your system and listening tastes before i could go further.

obviously; i choose the dart for myself (the dart works perfectly with my dart preamp and my speakers have powered subwoofers......if the dart is #1 in my book the Tenor is #1A).

Note; the Tenor is currently without any manufacturer's warranty as Tenor went out of business a couple of years ago. OTOH i have heard it is coming back in some form soon. service is avalible however and tech support. Tenor is a good enough amp to be worth a bit of hassel in any case.

if you have a very large room then the ARC becomes more of a consideration as it is more powerful than the other amps on your list. the other issue might be the compatability of the Diamond tweeter in the B&W's with each amp. sometimes with Diamond tweeters it can be an issue. in which case the more warm sounding Manley would likely be a good choice.

one other minor consideration is that the ARC can get quite warm if you have a small room without A/C in the summertime. neither the dart or Tenor has an issue about that (i don't know about the Manley).