Amp / Pre-Amp for Sonus Faber Serafino

I’m out of this conversation.

You come on here and attack personally in your first post. (which wasn’t warranted.)
You’ve been told by others now.
"Your Golden Ear Triton Reference Speakers are infinitely much easier to drive 93db and has 1500w active bass!!! compared to the OP’s full range SF Serafino’s"

You know the old saying, “You can’t beat a dead horse.”

Now you "run" for the hills, because you can’t ride your "dead horse", which is on the nose.

For the past year or so I have enjoyed my system every day and I play usually 4-5 hours listening to it and some days much more.

Good so long as your happy doing it

George, we all are entitled to our opinions.

Well don’t come on with your first post and start personally attacking people, put up a technical argument instead


I thought you and your dead horse, were outta-here

You think because they are good with your very easy to drive Golden Ear speaker they are automatically going to be good also for the OP’s speakers?? Sorry your wrong.

This is what the OP wants (warm) and what is the right amp for his speakers to drive them to what they’re capable of, and sorry that doesn’t include Mac’s.
I’m sure having this caliber of speaker $33K aud he doesn’t want them compromised with inadequate amplification.

Serafino bench measurments:

Impedance phase angles at LF means that the Serafino’s minimum EPDR (equivalent peak dissipation resistance) is 1.9ohm at 272Hz, 0.2ohm higher than the Amati’s.

Cheers George

In that case, you may want to try D’Agastino Momentum M400 Monoblock amplifiers

True they would be nice also, but the price for the OP is way too much compared to say the Gryphon 120 or 300, and I’d say they would be warmer sounding as well which he wants..

https://forum.audiogon.com/discussions/i-listened-to-the-gryphon-diablo-today-what-an-experience

Are you saying that McIntosh is technically inept

No you, obviously can’t read either.
BTW you started the mud slinging

ganeshgswamy OP
Will McIntosh do a good job?

It will make sounds, sorry I’m not a believer in degrading the performance and putting an output transformer on a perfectly good solid state amp.
The only reason to me to do it, is if the amps solid state design is poor and needs it to make it stable, or to make it idiot/bomb proof against owners shorting out the speaker outputs. Whatever it is it will never out perform a good solid state amp. To me the only thing Mac did well was the old 275 tube amps, even their speaker design is questionable

ganeshgswamy OP
Gryphon seems to be on the higher side.

I you want the best from those magic speakers and want a big "warm sound", why compromise them with the amp? Gryphon, it’s the way to go, the only tube amp that I know that "could" do it, is Roger Modjeski’s Ramlabs 100w RM200 which has a 2ohm output tap, "but" wattage is much lower from this tap and it may not be enough for you.

Cheers George

ganeshgswamy

Serafino bench measurments:
Impedance phase angles at LF means that the Serafino’s minimum EPDR (equivalent peak dissipation resistance) is 1.9ohm at 272Hz, 0.2ohm higher than the Amati’s.

Great speaker and rightly put in the same category as the SF Amati’s
But 1.9ohm!! load the amp will see at 270hz!! dictates these speakers need an amp that can do good current down to 2ohms continually and be comfortable doing it.
Forget the Prima Luna it will be sucked up the speaker cable.
If you want a warm amp that can do this load and get the best from these speakers and be comfortable doing it, look at Gryphon’s integrateds or their poweramp/s.

Cheers George

I wouldn’t pay too much attention to what George said regarding the output transformers.

Back at ya sunshine, obviously technically inept.