Amir and Blind Testing


Let me start by saying I like watching Amir from ASR, so please let’s not get harsh or the thread will be deleted. Many times, Amir has noted that when we’re inserting a new component in our system, our brains go into (to paraphrase) “analytical mode” and we start hearing imaginary improvements. He has reiterated this many times, saying that when he switched to an expensive cable he heard improvements, but when he switched back to the cheap one, he also heard improvements because the brain switches from “music enjoyment mode” to “analytical mode.” Following this logic, which I agree with, wouldn’t blind testing, or any A/B testing be compromised because our brains are always in analytical mode and therefore feeding us inaccurate data? Seems to me you need to relax for a few hours at least and listen to a variety of music before your brain can accurately assess whether something is an actual improvement.  Perhaps A/B testing is a strawman argument, because the human brain is not a spectrum analyzer.  We are too affected by our biases to come up with any valid data.  Maybe. 

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I’m okay with measurements used in proper context but I don’t respect Amir any longer because he clearly and obviously evades answering important questions. He simply ignores matching components during his reviews which misleads many others who don’t know any better. He’s closed minded as far as I’m concerned. They’re really an extremist bunch.

I don’t even consider them disciples. They’re more like henchman. Don’t get me wrong, I respect moderators but one of Amir’s moderators was also trashing the same product in their ASR forum. I asked him if he’d ever even heard it himself and he admitted in the forum that he hadn’t. When I questioned that, his attitude was basically....I don’t need to hear it. It measures bad and that’s enough. They’re obviously flogging people with their own agenda. That’s when I banned myself from that forum. They literally don’t listen to gear. Also, why is Amir using $400 speakers to judge products?

Don’t get me wrong, I’m not saying one can’t enjoy music with even a pocket radio. I’m merely saying that if Amir is going to listen to audible differences of some good quality gear, at least use a good set of speakers with proper efficiency. He’s telling others they’ll need higher efficiency speakers for the product he was reviewing but he didn’t apply that himself.

I use to like Amir’s channel but not as much nowadays now that I’ve spent more time actually listening to gear he’s criticized just because of some data. He recently tested a piece of gear I’ve really enjoyed listening to for years and still do and his review made it out to be terrible. That was when I realized there was something wrong with his reviews. Amir is just a data guy and that’s about it. He’s obviously not a good listener and I wouldn’t trust his listening opinion on gear. He doesn’t present things logically and takes data too literally. There are things that can still sound good even if they don’t measure well. I’m actually surprised he hasn’t had a lawsuit pinned against his practices or at least as far as I know.

According to this thread, Amir has some shady practices. If you scroll down to post 10 or 11 Skem Yuno talks about a DAC that AMIR used for 21 years until he finally measure it and then decided to dump it. That is very weird if you ask me. So, just because it measures badly all the sudden it’s a bad DAC? That’s pretty laughable. So, all he doing is taking measurements and according to him, if something measure bad that means the product is bad and if it measure good that means a product is good. It’s like the guy has not common sense. 

 

He also misleads people in the way that he never seems to share what gear he’s using during his listening tests, so you have no way of knowing he’s matching products properly. He apparently used a pair of Infinity R253’s to evaluate a Dynaco VTA ST-70. Is this guy serious? 

Well, at least I feel better knowing it isn’t just me getting that vibe from ASR.

Jssmith, I appreciate your comments but I wouldn’t trust Amir’s opinion on judging the sound of anything. He’s obviously a horrible listener and the pure fact is he’s a measuring geek. He knows nothing about the quality of the sound of products. 

I think we both know the  Placebo effect was merely a metaphor. This listener believes one device was sounding better than another when in fact it was the same device all along.