alternate method of bi-wiring

Does everyone here bi-wire their speakers?

I think I am the only one that doesn't bi-wire around here.

I just got some Goertz silver jumpers. These jumpers are solid silver and 10 mm thick. Hmm...... they sound better than bi-wire in my system.

Sugar,

I don't have two runs of the same cable to compare with the jumpers. However, I have been double-bi-wiring for the last 6 years using AQ Argents/Midnights. After some powercable upgrades, my system sounds much better by letting the speaker run full range. I lose a little on the highs and lows, but I am achieving midrange magic, especially after adding the Goertz jumpers.

I posted my findings in another thread before. Another agon member semed kinda miffed that I didn't like the Argent/Midnight doublebiwiring. He said the AQ factory highly recommends this set up. Well, they were good. But now the Midnights stick out like a sore thumb.

Hey Sugar,

For me to use bi-wire is double jeaporady. What I mean is, when I was burning in my P3 VD powercord with my speakers bi-wired, my soundstage was way too wide where the center focus dissapeared. Also, the deficiencies of the Midnight when comparing to the Argent became much more apparent after using VD's powercord.

Thus, I removed the Midnight and ran my speakers full range, Coherency and timing improved as well as focus. Swapping for the Goertz jumper improved on these 3 factors even more.

I did discuss this with Rick at VD lastnight. He told me the P3 does have a stage widening effect when connected to transports.

I've ordered the Audition powercord, to be connected to the transport. Then I wouldn't have the double jeaporady soundstage effect, hopefully, and might go back to bi-wire. However, now that I am hearing the obvious deficiencies of the Midnight, I don't want to use it again.

All this being said, I am very happy with the sound I am getting using full range with the Goertz jumpers.

Pm,

In most situations, double bi-wire, using the same cable on HF and LF would be best. You should borrow some cables or buy some with 30day trial offers and experiment for yourself.

Sugar, yup, i moved my speakers closer together by about 6 inches. Before they were about 8 ft apart. I don't have them toed in. I feel this ruins the imaging.

Yes,

I've only learned of shotgunning like 2 weeks ago from this forum. There is a thread on it, rather long and detailed, on the benefits and drawbacks of shotgun configuration.

Oh, if you are double biwiring and using two different cables, I have a tweak that might work so you won't hear the desparity between the better and the worse cable. I never heard of anyone doing this before, so I am proclaiming it my creation, and naming it cross double biwiring.

Like I explained before, I used to double bi-wire, but the weaknesses of the Midnight became very apparent in my system. I wanted to get another Argent, so I can take the weaker cable out of my system. But before I layed down the greens, I rewired the speaker cables.

My amp is designed to double bi-wire; it has two outputs on each side, left and right. I connected one single run of Argent on both the HF and LF positive on the amp side to the speaker HF and LF positive. And I connected the Midnights to both the speaker and amp's HF and LF negative.

This yielded a much balanced and coherent sound. I don't have two Argents to compare, but I doubt it would sound any different.

It wasn't until I got the Virtual Dynamics powercord, did the soundstage became too wide, then I removed to bi-wire and went with full range.