Aliexpress no longer an option


Anyone try to buy from Aliexpress recently?  I went in to pick up some copper banana connectors, added them to my cart to find out what our new tariffs look like.  $13.00 set of 4 bananas, $1.14 tax, $1.20 shipping and $23.40 customs fee!  That for a $13.00 item.  Trade war has arrived at our door.  Grrrrrrr….

Please reframe from the political debates/opinions I just wanted to inform USA audio shoppers what our China tariff reality is now.

tksteingraber

@gkelly Do you really believe any country’s ability to sell cheaper goods is a form of economic weaponization to destroy other societies?  History defines a cycle of economic growth and inflation that starts with mass unemployment in underdeveloped countries, industrialization with employment of the masses at low compensation producing low quality goods.  As industrialization progresses together with modernization, quality improves increasing international competitiveness.  Just use as an example Japanese transistor radios and cars from the 1970s to now, and the parallel development of Japan’s society and economy, including fair wages.  Unemployment decreases and there is a gradual shift towards fairer compensation and a more developed labor market. Prices increase.  We experienced this in our Industrial Revolution.   We facilitated Japan, then South Korea, where this cycle is very evident.  In China, the cycle is moving forward.  India will become the next China, maybe even more of a competitor since they are focusing on service industries as well as manufacturing.  Our own US companies have fallen short in retooling to be competitive, with less efficient processes increasing manufacturing costs.  Our own US companies as true capitalist moved manufacturing off shores.   Tariffs will not address the issues but rather increase  cost of goods for us (inflation).   The intrinsic issues need to be addressed.   To me reciprocal tariffs is a fair principle (treat others as they treat you), weaponization of tariffs is not.  

 

How long would it take to honestly assess whether the tariffs are more good than bad or the other way around?  Many/most/all countries have had tariffs for a long time.  If they're bad why are they doing it?  People who think they know what trump is thinking but doesn't say are the most absurd.  You are not a mind reader.  

As an American, I hope the tariff policies work to our benefit. The problem is,  that is the triumph of Hope over experience. The tariffs we tried in the first term didn’t work. According to conservative groups, those tariffs cost us tens of thousands of jobs and diminished the GDP.
 

our best hope is that we will negotiate some meaningless deals that won’t actually accomplish anything, but our leaders will be able to declare victory and extricate themselves from the corner they are in.

if we don’t do that, we are going to be in real trouble when China starts dumping treasuries. I also think this will hit American audio manufacturers, hard as well because foreign consumers are simply not going to buy from our folks. Our new friends, Russia And North Korea probably don’t buy nearly as much high end Audio equipment as our former friends.

hopefully, this will end soon with as little damage as possible. It’s not politics, it’s the iron laws of economics.

At the end of the road, after all of the tariff carnage is complete, Fat Donnie is going to say that he had no part of it and that all of it was President Biden's doing.  The maga base will fall right in line with that.

He's already done that. Earlier today he tweeted that this was all Biden's fault and that it's all a hangover from his policies. He also claimed credit for the four new EV plants that Ford is building in two different states that Biden started back in 2021-2022. 

How long would it take to honestly assess whether the tariffs are more good than bad or the other way around?  Many/most/all countries have had tariffs for a long time.  If they're bad why are they doing it?  People who think they know what trump is thinking but doesn't say are the most absurd.  You are not a mind reader.  

It took this long to figure out he's severely damaged the economy and made America the laughing stock of the world. Less than 100 days. As for mind reading that talent is not needed.

 All the best,
Nonoise

 

 

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