Airport Express/Apple TV into DAC vs Mac into DAC


Hi guys,

Due to budget constraints I might not be able to purchase a Mac Mini for my living room audio/video setup.

1st option -

Use either an Airport Express or Apple TV hooked up to an affordable DAC (yet to be selected)
- most probably Apple TV so I can stream my movies/tv shows directly into my TV as well.
- need to get an optical DAC (can't seem to find good optical DACs that are as cheap as say the HRT Streamer ii)

2nd option -

Use my Macbook Pro and plug in direct to DAC
- clunky option, cuz I would need to constantly plug and unplug my MBP when I need to do work on it
- can use cheaper USB DACs like the HRT Streamer II

Question -

Would I suffer reduced audio quality with the Airport Express/Apple TV route - as compared to plugging the DAC directly into my Macbook Pro?

Many thanks in advance!
milesandcoltrane

Showing 3 responses by kijanki

Milesandcoltrane,

I decided to use first option with jitter suppressing (reclocking) Benchmark DAC1. According to Stereophile measurements AE has respectable 258ps of jitter further reduced by the DAC processing. Clarity of sound is incredible and I don't have to connect anything or run wires across the room. Another benefit is that data on Hard Disk and the data send to AE in packets does not contain timing. The playback program (I use Itunes) or computer used (noisy or not) don't make any difference.
You will be limited with AE to 16/44.1 but I don't use other format so far. Also, it was reported that some DACs are too slow to lock back to signal after the gap suppressing few seconds of new song. My Benchmark doesn't do this but possible remedy for that is to crossfade songs. I thing that it is related to speed of PLL (Phase Lock Loop). It has to re-sync quick after the gap and I know that my Benchmark, being reclocker/upsampler, has fast reacting PLL. I don't know if AppleTV has the same problem. Also, data is sent to AE in ALAC so I keep it stored in ALAC to relief main processor from compressing.

During installation of AE you want to "join existing network" instead of creating new. I read that it was source of grief for many people. Don't use analog outs on AE. Measured jitter is much higher and sound according to many posts here is much worse.

http://www.stereophile.com/digitalprocessors/505apple
Arni, If signal from computer is delivered asynchronously like S/Pdif (Toslink, coax) then in addition to computer clock jitter there would be cable/system jitter. Jitter supressing DACs like Benchmark are always beneficial but not everybody likes the sound. According to technical director of Benchmark John Siau Benchmark DAC1 was not designed to sound warm since warmth (enhanced even harmonics) screws up sound of instruments with complex harmonic structure like piano or percussion instruments. Here is what he says:

"We designed the DAC1 for maximum transparency. If you want to add warmth, you can't add it with a DAC1. Personally, I do not like what warm sounding equipment does to the sound of a piano. Warmth is wonderful on vocals, guitars and certain instruments, but it beats against the streched overtones of a piano. The overtones in a piano occur at slightly higher than harmonic ratios, and these create beat notes with the exact integer ratios produced by electronic equipment (and speakers). Too much harmonic distortion will make a piano sound out of tune. "
Steve, look at this measurement page of Stereophile review. It shows Benchmark DAC1 excellent jitter suppression.

http://www.stereophile.com/content/fifth-element-18-measurements

Do you know by any chance jitter numbers for AppleTV?