Advice on SUT for Koetsu Rosewood - EAR MC-4, Slagle/EMIA, other


I recently tried a friend's Sound Traditions Hashimoto hm7 transformer-based sut and overall the sound was substantially more Dynamic and alive and generally better than my current Berning preamp MC section. The problem was the images were just so large and the presentation a little too forward for my tastes. I am thinking a different Sut such as the EAR MC- 4 or an Intact Audio (Slagle) Step Up Transformer, copper.

Has anyone used these Sut's and could advise about whether they might do what I'm looking for? I'm hoping to add more dynamics and life but I do prefer a slightly laid-back presentation to a forward one and I don't want giant instruments in the soundstage. I listen to mostly old Jazz and Blues with some rock and classical mixed in. I am not looking for the last word in in treble detail or "air" and my biggest sonic priorities are organic , rich mids, good sounstaging, and a realistic tonal balance that does not accentuate the top end as so many components seem to do (IMHO). So I guess I am looking for a sut with a reputation for musicality and richness, without javing a forward sound. But I would love somethng as amazing sounding as the Hashimoto HM-7 based SUT.

My system is a Koetsu Rosewood Signature (.4mv), Jelco 850M on a Sota Star Sapphire, Berning all-tube bespoke capacitance coupled preamp (46 dB gain on the MM stage, Jensen transformers on the moving coil stage), Quicksilver v4 monos, Verity Audio Pafisals.

Thanks for any thoughts.


montaldo

Showing 3 responses by rauliruegas

Dear @montaldo  : """  I think our respective objectives in this Pursuit might be very different.  """ Could be you are rigth.

My overall room/system target ( main target. ) is that what I listening through it be stay nearer to the recording.
Then my quest is to acieve that target that puts me nearer to what the recording microphones pick-up that puts me nearer to the " real music " ( it's imposible to mimic live music experience in any room/system. ).

For that can happen the room/system must be a very high resolution one and at the same time with very low distortion levels at each singhle link in the room/system audio chain. That is true HiFi, not what refferd Tom.

Now, in " paper " those Jensen are very good transformers and for many years Jensen was and is a reference in audio, several high end manufacturers use it:

https://www.av-iq.com/avcat/ctl1642/index.cfm?manufacturer=jensen-transformers&product=jt-347-axt

I know that numbers does not say all but are important.

Hashimoto as other transformers are good too but in the case of the Hashimoto and due the way of thinking of the manufacturer amybe just maybe what you are listening trhough it more than a real an better " dynamic " characteristics against the Jensen in your Berning been only a different kind of distortions not only because the SUT but because the additional IC cables and connectors.
I think that way because you said the differences for the better is not a tiny one but something important.

In the other side, through the years you owned the Berning and after the burn-in time the quality level performance  of that unit changed in any way?

Because could be too that through the time something " degraded " the Jensen performance as " cold " wire solder down there ( with so many wires. ) or even one de-soldered.

It's imposible to figure out what is happening in your room/system because no one here already had your experiences betwwen the Berning and the external SUT.

Btw, @mulveling  the KRSP ( that I owned. ) is way different to the Koetsu OP model. The KRSP output level is 0.2mv and the OP is 0.4mv. As a fact both models only shares the Koetsu name because the quality level performance is way different in favor of the KRSP.

R.
Dear @montaldo : In my post already told you ( advice/opinion. ) what I will do in your " place " . Maybe you need to re-read it.

In the other side I dit not suggest to change the Berning.

R.

Mijo: I was owner of tube electronics for several years till I learned.
Dear @montaldo : I can see that along your other thread you want a SUT and a Sota Cosmos TT and is fine with me.

Now, tubes are not a favorite electronics for me but Berning is a good design and Jensen transformers are good ( many phono stages and SUTs use Jensen. ).

Adding a SUT means adding additional input/output connectors and the IC cable and the cartridge signal must pass for all these additional links where at each link that cartridge signal is degraded and lost quality level and music information.

If I were you ( that I'm not. ) my first move will be to rewire internally the Jelco tonearm along a change of headshell better quality wires and my second step could be change the Koetsu cartridge and maybe better IC system cables. All these before other " moves ". I assume that you are looking for a better system/room quality level performance.
If after " my advise " you still want the Cosmos then go a head but not before.

Well, that's me and only an opinion.


Regards and enjoy the MUSIC NOT DISTORTIONS,
R.