Adding a “safe haven” forum for discussion of tweaks?


I think we can all agree that threads about tweaks like fuses, stones, mats, power conditioners etc. stir up all kinds of controversy, conflict and ill will.

 

Short of banning discussion of these controversial topics, is there another solution to this problem?

 

I got this idea from teo_audio’s comments about a solution implemented at Canuck audio on another thread:

 

“Canuck audio tames it by having a cable and tweak area for threads. Where any counter to the idea that such things are functional (in attempt or in analysis), is not tolerated.

 

Meaning.. threads where people discuss tweaks, or mods or cables and so on, if a naysayer posts there, and interrupts the discussion, in any way, they get their posts deleted. And...if the given naysayer can’t hold their tongue, after said deletion-ish warnings..... they will, rapidly, via any repeats in behavior, find themselves banned from the forum. They have to grow up, or get lost.”

 

You may not like parts of his description, but I think the idea has real merit.

 

I propose a new “safe haven” sub-forum, with some special rules, for the discussion of tweaks. These rules would ONLY apply to this specific sub-forum, the current rules would continue as they are in all other areas.

 

The special rules would be along these lines:

 

Posts that categorically deny the possibility of tweaks having any effect or value are not allowed.

 

Posts proclaiming tweaks to be “scams” “cons” etc. are not allowed.

 

Posts that directly state, or imply, that another poster is lying, are not allowed.

 

Posts that make absolute negative statements like “Science proves it can’t work.” are not allowed.

 

Posts demanding measurements, controlled listening tests etc. are not allowed.

 

Posts that express skepticism (without making absolute negative statements), ask tough questions, or request more information are welcome.

 

Of course, some who hold the above opinions may object, but they would still be able to express those opinions in all other parts of the forum, just like they always have.

 

What do you think?

tommylion

Showing 6 responses by tyray

While your solution sounds tempting superficially, it would just create an atmosphere of mistrust and members would have apprehension about expressing their opinions. I think that it’s best just to ignore the annoying posts and there will be fewer of them.

That has already happened. Many new members are afraid to post and some of the members who have been here a long time have stopped posting long ago because of the discourse some like to bring here. Shame.

It won’t happen because of the first amendment. Audiogon is a buisness and has to follow the dictates of their lawyers as not to get sued.

Tablejockey, good to know!

Frank, you’re the best!

This thread will probably be shut down within a day or two also.

Hey Frank, tommylion, Tablejockey and others here that have taken the time to graciously share fuse tweeks with us, this is for you:

http://www.enjoythemusic.com/magazine/equipment/1021/Acme_Audio_Labs_Silver_Cryo_Fuses_Review.htm

The Acme Audio Labs - Small Silver Cryo w/CFC coating fuses for $17.90 a pop. Check em out...

And it’s my understanding when ordering fuses from Acme Audio Labs, you can ask them to ’match’ fuses.

At this time I don’t know exactly what that means but it sounds similar to testing/matching vacuum tubes when multiples are needed for seperates of gear.

Peace Brothers

thecarpathian and builder3,

Thank you for your thoughtful insight, responses and lessons. Much appreciated.

But it still is a shame that when discourse is added to like minded sharing discussion, the moderators get triggered somehow and shut it down.

And the one(s) that do bring discourse know this and said like minded sharing discussions are stopped, abrutly.

 

Thanks TC,

I knew it was always Agon’s decision, but as I stated before, other threads without discourse to this day have gone on for years, talking about the same things.

And multiple threads talking about the same things? Is a very common occurence here.

And it's kinda hard to impossible to continue to post to a thread discussion(s) that has been taken down and closed by the moderators.

thecarpathian

But, from what I've discerned, I don't believe the threads are being shut down because of discord. I believe they are being shut down for being repetitive, as there were several fuse threads all basically taking identical paths.

I have to disagree with you there. When discussions are cordial, like minded members have been posting to discussions here that have been lasting for years.

And with all due respect to you, you know this to be true. But I must thank you again for being cordial to me, even if we may disagree.

Now see, that was'nt so hard was it?