Acurus A150 v. Bryston 4b


Looking for a stopgap amp for my Magnepan 1.7s until I can fund the amp I really want. Acurus A150 or the Bryston 4b, opinions? The Bryston is not an ST or SST.
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Bryston is a better amp than the Acurus, but I wouldn't get either. If you just want something to hold you over, get a pro amp. A QSC GX3 would be a good choice. Guitar Center sells them for $299 brand new. It has more than enough power to drive your 1.7's and its made in the USA. CG gives you 30 days to return it. Its not an audiophile amp as far as SQ goes, but it will get the job done.
" and it’s NOT made in the USA (China) which is why it’s so inexpensive."

Would you like to put some money on that?

No one ever bets money with me, so here's the info.

"QSC expertise is also evident in its advanced manufacturing and quality control processes. The company manufactures in its 81,000 square foot, state-of-the-art facility, located in Costa Mesa, California. Utilizing a compliment of demand planning, parts procurement, operations and logistics, computer-controlled precision assembly, and rigorous testing and control, the QSC facility is designed with build-to-order flexibility, giving the company unprecedented ability to respond to customer needs while keeping both parts and finished goods inventory at well-maintained levels. Select partners in Asia provide additional manufacturing."


That's from their website and here's a pic of the back of the amp. If you look on the white card, it says Made in USA. I don't have mine anymore, but it did say Made in USA on mine as well.


http://www.qsc.com/resource-files//productresources/amp/gx/q_amp_gx_img_rear.png



" The amp you show in the pic is a GX7 from the QSC site "images" and made me wonder…hmmm...seriously…an under $300, 400 plus watts per side pro amp made in the USA? "

All of the GX's are made in the same factory and are the same size. The same case gets used for the 5 and 3. Do you seriously believe that they would split the line up and have some of them made here and some in China? That's silly. The assembly of all 3 amps is almost identical. It would cost them more to make them in China if they already make them over here. Maybe you got a knock off, or gray market. And if I'm not mistaken, you live in NYC, the gray market capital of the world. Either way, mine said Made in USA. How could I make a mistake like that? I thought it was made in China too, so it was a huge surprise when I saw the label. Why would I need to make something like this up?

This is my last post on this topic. If you agree with me, that's fine. If not, that's OK too. If you go to QSC's home page they clearly state their factory is in CA. All of their other locations are listed as offices. Now, if you go to QSC's website and navigate to the GX3 and click on the pic for the rear of the amp, you get this web address.

http://www.qsc.com/resource-files//productresources/amp/gx/q_amp_gx_img_rear.png

That pulls up the pic of the GX7 that you were so quick to point out. So is it a mistake? No. If you look at the address, its not labeled GX7, they label it in a way that covers multiple amps, not just the GX7. So its either a conspiracy started by QSC to fool all of us as to where the amp is made, or its just made in the US like the one in the pic and mine shows. 
" Thanks in advance for not responding, but since I’m here to help you understand international manufacturing processes, feel free to respond anyway. Just maybe do some research first."

Lets do just that.

" The silver label in your pic DOES say GX7 and the pic was provided by QSC (sneaky) who seemingly have succeeded in pulling the wool over your eyes anyway"

To me it looks like you are pulling the wool over your own eyes. Here is a direct quote from my last post, word for word.

" Now, if you go to QSC's website and navigate to the GX3 and click on the pic for the rear of the amp, you get this web address.   That pulls up the pic of the GX7 that you were so quick to point out. So is it a mistake? No. If you look at the address, its not labeled GX7, they label it in a way that covers multiple amps, not just the GX7. "

http://www.qsc.com/resource-files//productresources/amp/gx/q_amp_gx_img_rear.png

I know for a fact that you can read all of that and most likely understand it. But just in case, I'll try and clarify the obvious. 

1. If you go to QSC's website and navigate to the GX3 product listing, and then go to the pics for the GX3 and click on the pic for the rear of the GX3, the pic that they show is for the GX7. I can't make it any simpler. Yes, I think that we can all agree that it says GX7. When you click on the pic for a GX3, you get the pic for the GX7. When you click on the pic for the GX5, you get the pic for the the GX7. When you click on the pic for the GX7, you get the pic for the GX7.
***Please read that 5x***

2. This next part is confusing so pay attention. If you look at the web address that links you to the infamous pic of the GX7, you can clearly see that the link was not for the GX7 specifically. Its labeled for the entire GX line (amp/gx/q_amp_gx_img_rear.png). Just to be clear, that means the one pic that says GX7 on the label is used for the entire line (GX3,5,7). If the GX3 and 5 were made in China and not in the US like the GS7, they would have to use a different pic. But there is no need to because all 3 amps are made in the same factory.
***Please read that 5x***

Yes, I realize that you're going to chose to not understand 1 word of what I just said, but can you please make your reply a bit more entertaining this time so we can at least have a good laugh.
" what about a NuPrime bridgeable STA-9 ??"

That's not a bad idea. I'm not a huge fan of Class D myself, but they should work fine as a temp amp. Cable Company sells them and has demo's to lend out. They sent me some to try a few years ago.
Then why does the amp say Made in USA on it? The pic is directly from QSC's website. Is your need to be right so bad that you won't consider the possibility that there may be a perfectly reasonable explination? Maybe they moved production from one country to another. Companies do stuff like that all the time.
You guys don't know what the hell you're talking about. China makes the best junk. Ask anyone from China and they'll tell you the same.
" "I would never buy junk from china." Curious if you mean audio or if you check everything you purchase for its country of origin?"

I have no idea why this such a big issue. Arguing over facts is senseless.

Fact: Someone put a label on my GX3 that said Made in USA and it wasn't me.

" I accidently actually included a link to it, how cool."

"

Per the QSC Audio Forum, which I had never heard of before this, the answer to the question Where are QSC amps manufactured? was answered as follows (ON MARCH 1, 2007 caps for emphasis):"

That's great information, but if you'll notice, its 9 years old. Is it me, or does it seem like some people really don't want the right answer? 


Just to put an end to this ridiculous conversation, I called QSC (800-772-2834). Select option 3 from the menu for amps. A live person answers immediately. No waiting. I told them I have a GX3 that says Made in USA, and my friend has one that says Made in China, and asked them what the difference was because I wanted to buy another one. I was told the amps were identical. Depending on when the amp was made, the country of origin will either be USA or China. They started producing the GX line in the US, and moved production to China a few years ago to save money.


For me, the great QSC GX3 amp conspiracy of 2016 is settled.  I fully understand that for some, the conspiracy will live on, and I wish everyone the best as they continue with the ongoing debate.