Accurate vs Musical

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I said all this nonsense over tech jargon means zero.
Its how does the speaker sound.
I head the B&W's 602's. So I bought them.
Then I got the seas Thor kit.
BLEW out the water the B&W's.
So its how does the speaker sound. For musical accuracy I've found the Seas to be top dog.

These are very loose terms so there is no use arguing over them. Don't get hung up on the word games: "How can it be musical if it's not accurate", etc. We're trying to describe speakers in a very general way.

Accurate speakers try to get the objective things right. The details of the sound, flat frequency response, phase coherence, etc. Someone mentioned that the word "analytical" might better, although "analytical" sometimes has a negative connotation. The word "accurate" itself has become pretty controversial.

Musical speakers try to get the subjective things right. They are easy to listen to. The details might not be as clear but the music sounds "right" and the speakers don't draw attention to themselves.

The best speakers, of course, are musical ... and accurate!

Accurate includes musical IF music there is. Musical does not include accuracy, however, and 'imposes' music when there isn't any to be had.
I prefer to make up my own mind about whether there is music there or not and not have some other person's interpretation of what music I should hear.
Bob P.

Accurate. By accurate I mean accurate to the musical signals layed down in the original recording. Accurate to what the microphone(s) heard. Musical to one may not be musical to another. If the speaker accurately plays back the original waveform recorded in frequency, amplitude and phase, that speaker will indeed be musical. While it's not that difficult to find speakers that do the first criteria (frequency response) well, the second criteria (amplitude) is much harder (live music can have a dynamic range of 120db) The last (Phase accuracy) is also very difficult as the vast majority of speakers destroy the phase/time relationships of the original waveform. While some might argue that time/phase is not important, ask any musician if one member of the band playing eighth notes instead of quarter notes will be audible. This has been my experience over the past 30 years, YMMV

For me its all about the fatigue factor.
I can tell you my Thors have never given me fatigue. This is what I'm after. They are not harsh/grainy/smokey/bright.
I'd say they are neutral. Neutral is not the same as bland. They reproduce the exact image that is transfered through the amp.
I have a Jadis Orch Refer. Its a 60 pound intergrated, has 4 out tubes and 2 preamp tubes. Though its one of the few small tube amps that can push this 4 ohm speaker, it still is not bringing out all the potential of these speakers.
Yet I;m happy at the moment with the results.
If I run into some $'s I'll get a big Cayin tube amp/imported from france. the MK500
Maybe the big Orch's big brotther the DA60 might do a bangup job.
Then the speakers will meet their match.
I say all this to let you know an amp can hold back the fullpotential of a speaker.