About the new Wilson Audio Watt/Puppy 8

KeithR,

Spot on comments. I would _never_ have purchased the 5.1's or 6's as they weren't my cuppa', I found the mid-treble beamy and the upper bass pronounced.

I liked the Audio Physic sound (Old V. Caldera). The Sophia changed all that, and I went from the Sophia to the 7's/WatchDog, then to the MAXX 2's in quick succession, maybe over two years. despite comparing them to many top models--in my home, how many that slander Wilson have done that? The answer in this and other Wilson "bashing" threads is self evident.

I don't begrudge anyone their choices and biases as we all have our own. However there are _way_ too many posts in this and other recent Wilson threads categorically denouncing Wilson speakers as if they're a scam, and anyone that owns them is a dupe, a status seeking mongrel or part of the Wilson marketing machine.

All those opinions are _nonsense_, and pure ill-informed speculation They are excellent speakers made in the US that are fairly priced for what they cost to produce. That was the thrust of the advert as I saw it, and more of a defensive ad, given the abuse that gets heaped on anything Wilson in these and other forums.

The kicker is, anyone that works in this industry, with intimate, in home experience with the current Wilson speakers at a _minimum_ respects them. And those of us privy to the costs of US labor/ production and the make-up of their speakers has _no_ qualms regarding Dave's sincerity in stating his opinion in the ad.

Either it's an elaborate conspiracy involving Fremer, Harley, Bolin, Mickelson, VTL, Audio Research, BAT, Lamm, Shunyata and countless other companies, professionals and music lovers that back Wilson, or... the speakers are actually really well designed and perform well in many applications--not all--no product does.

Me, I'm not big on conspiracy theory other than what's on HBO. But I am aware that these forums _thrive on it_.Enjoy yourselves, what a colossal waste of time and energy.

Best,

Grant

Hic,

Yes, I've heard current AR electronics with Wilson speakers and the pairing is exceptional. Wilson themselves, recommends the combination and owns many of the current ARC products.

Also, read some of Marc Mikelson's (Editor: Soundstage) recent reviews of ARC with the Wilson X2's and MAXX2's. His comments mirror my own impressions.

Regards,

Grant

The high-end is a small community. There are many good, even great speaker designs out there at all manner of price points and for all tastes. We should celebrate that we have so many choices rather than attack lines we know little to nothing about. Hearing a speaker in a showroom or at an industry show doesn't count. Reading an ad we don't like and defining a company because of it is equally short sighted.

There is no best, better for less, or for the price, or "mine's bigger than yours". The choice of a speaker, factoring room, electronics and budget is _way_ too personal and subjective for anyone to make categorical statements of value on what's best, or what sucks. The premise itself is ridiculous if you factor in all the intangibles.

In high end nowadays? Quality, value and established reputation rules. Gone are the days of over-priced, under performing products that do well and subsist on the open market--they're gone. If you make and market crap, you _will_ fail.

IMO, Wilson does not fall into the latter category, and every single market arbiter supports that assertion.

best for everyone? Noooooo.

Excellent designs, great sonics when set up well, great value based on any market, design or construction arbiter you care to review? Yes.

Simple as that, though these net forums were made for people that like to thow clandestine stones, so have at it.

JMHO.

Grant

The high-end is a small community. There are many good, even great speaker designs out there at all manner of price points and for all tastes. We should celebrate that we have so many choices rather than attack lines we know little to nothing about. Hearing a speaker in a showroom or at an industry show doesn't count. Reading an ad we don't like and defining a company because of it is equally short sighted.

There is no best, better for less, or for the price, or "mine's bigger than yours". The choice of a speaker, factoring room, electronics and budget is _way_ too personal and subjective for anyone to make categorical statements of value on what's best, or what sucks. The premise itself is ridiculous if you factor in all the intangibles.

In high end nowadays? Quality, value and established reputation rules. Gone are the days of over-priced, under performing products that do well and subsist on the open market--they're gone. If you make and market crap, you _will_ fail.

IMO, Wilson does not fall into the latter category, and every single market arbiter supports that assertion.

best for everyone? Noooooo.

Excellent designs, great sonics when set up well, great value based on any market, design or construction arbiter you care to review? Yes.

Simple as that, though these net forums were made for people that like to thow clandestine stones, so have at it.

JMHO.

Grant