A reappearance of Black Diamond Racing?


I received an email from Music Direct a couple weeks ago offering the BDR shelves again. Anyone else notice this? I use them extensively in my system and actually use carbon fiber sheets in DIY projects. I'm a big fan of CF's usefulness in audio.
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That's it. Just installed last week. A few quirks to work out. Gonna need  higher spring rate on the upper shelf than I currently have, (ordered). The Rock 7 is currently out of service, waiting to be rewired straight through to phono stage. 

The good thing is how much of a positive change this was/is!
@millercarbon,

If you’re referring to me, take a look at my system' page.
Finally received my custom ordered BDR shelves for my long planned DIY wall system. Yeah!
@tabl10s ,

I'd love to hear your thoughts on The Shelf. Did it replace another well regarding shelf?
I just ordered some custom sized shelves for my wall mount project. According to Music Direct, this is the same company D J Casser started.
@bdp24 

"Good things come to those who wait". 

That's happened to me before when out of the blue I decide to check the sale ads after not looking for long periods of time and boom!, there it is. Glad you got a deal.
I'm struggling to get a basis for the cones. I will not be able to until later.I think what is "clear"...is that I'm getting close to the full potential of my K&K phono pre-amp. Lovin'it!
So, like I said, I cannot compare right now except only as a replacement for the rubber feet. I just finished listening to a very familiar lp, "Love Over Gold". The presentation is very quiet, quieter than I’ve experienced before in my system. This leads to greater/more natural tonality, no loss of any part of the frequency range. My system is sounding better than ever before.

I can hardly wait for the installation of the new wall mount system. Then, all of my front end components will be decoupled from the wall/room.
I'm not feeling any buyer's remorse so far. As the weekend progresses, and I listen to more familiar recordings, I'll post.

One thing I've noticed throughout the years in audio...when a product is labeled "gold" or "silver", that is not by chance.....there is a thought behind it. Gold is mostly thought of as a smooth. warm presentation. Silver is thought of as a more transparent. revealing presentation.
I mention this because these cones are labeled "Golden Sound". And so far on lesser known lps, they live up to their name. And this is a good thing!
@geoffkait 

I had the feeling the felt would have that effect and will certainly remember that when I put them into service.
Hey @mofimadness 

Well, I received the Golden Sound cones in a week. Much sooner than I was thinking.

In my current system configuration, the best/only place I can use them now is under my K&K Audio Trio Pre-amplifier. Also, I cannot compare between them and the BDR comes because of lack of space. So, until I make my system changes, I will only be listening to the GS cones verses the rubber feet in my wall unit. The Trio sits on a BDR shelf inside the MANA Acoustics wall unit.

I'm using the medium cones here. What's interesting is the difference in the design of the Mediums and the Supers. The Mediums have a "nipple" on the bottom/shelf contact end and a hollowed out portion in the top/component contact surface. I assume this design is from a lot of testing. It worked out well for me as, right where I wanted to place two of them in the back of the Trio were chassis screws. I was able to set the cones right over the center of the screws. The Mediums have no interface, compared to the Supers, which have a felt pad on the component end.

Almost through...I doubt if any of that interested you but being my first time using them and for others that have yet to use them, I thought it may be useful.
@geoffkait ,

Although I've never tried them, my experience with trying different materials, leads me toward agreeing with you. I just looked at www.goldensound.com it seems they are still available. I'm going to order some.
Honestly, I doubt it, the way things have been going..... of coarse if I'd quit listening as much as I do, I could.
@millercarbon,
My project has been in the works for several years, some in actual building/testing but mostly in my mind. I own several BDR shelves/SFTSs. I just bought two 14" diameter SFTS a year ago that were originally made for Thor monoblocks. These, I got at a great deal and aren’t cosmetically great. So they will be great candidates for my project. Mine will be based on VPI’s Super Platter w/inverted bearing. I have the design of the motor enclosure mostly figured out. I’m going to go for the SOTA/Phoenix Engineering set-up. This motor will bolt perfectly to my already machined plate. Planning on two separate arm pods, one for my ET 2.5 and one for my Moerch DP-8.

@millercarbon,

I've thought about doing the same thing (using one of my circular SFTS platforms for my tt project' plinth.
@geoffkait ,

You only list BDR cones as your reference. I have the cones but my experience with them is not as positive as the shelves, or in my DIY projects with cf sheets.

@mofimadness ,
+1
I've been a long time customer. The have always has the discs, etc for sale...not the shelves...IE: my inquiry?