A challenge to the "measurement" camp

Without time there can be no mass.

There was a great article from stereophile the other day, that finally nailed it to the wall.

Not that most understand the concepts being spoken about.

It comes down to the dynamic aspects of inductance, it seems.

Capacitance? capacitance turned out to be almost meaningless.

Read:
https://www.stereophile.com/content/what-difference-wire-makes

Read right to the end. Bring your molecular level understanding of inductance, capacitance, and resistance along for any comments... as otherwise.. 

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There is literally...Teo Audio Liquid metal cables..and...everything else. The gulf is huge and all encompassing, in the complex electrical and complex physics sense. 

The Teo audio cables don’t have their inductance occurring like any other cable in the world. What, is the dynamics of the inductance of a charged gas? Think in that direction.

As a matter of fact, it is almost impossible to get an inductive response out of a Teo Audio Liquid Metal Cable.

Importantly, if you try to make an inductive coil out of liquid metal you get a giant... FAIL.

You get a wholly different beast. Ie, ’forces you don’t understand’.

An entire area of potentials in physics and possible technology that exactly ZERO people have thought enough about to explore and exploit. the math becomes impossibly complex (quantum and classical, combined, in living motion) and experimentation becomes the order of the day.

1995 is the year of the report linked to by Teo_Audio

If one reads the entire article, the last of it, is done in 2008, IIRC. It is a combination of a few articles, as a bit of continuance, the last of it being from 2008...

It is always interesting to note that you can go to Wikipedia and read about skin effect and thus inductance issues.... but nowhere does anyone talk about what exactly these things are. just the math. just.. how it appears to work.

nothing about what it is, at all. The whole thing is circular and redundant.

None of that is of any use in discovery work. It’s more for self appointed policemen to use when they have decided that someone must be punished for breaking a ’law’. Exceedingly dogmatic and wholly useless for these discussions.

FYI, all of these discussions in audio about cables are the data points for discovery work. And Wikipedia becomes useless in that moment -Circular and living inside it’s own butt, tossing engineering level papal bulls around like they actually mean something. Jebus. 

The longer a question has been in existence, the more fundamental the error in the formulation of the question.

glupson5,731 posts07-10-2020 1:10amJust to remind everyone, on a consumer level current world is cableless.

Ask any 20-year-old what cables are for. She/he may not have even one in their possession and yet be entirely functional. Many, if not most, have only cable for phone charger. Some not even that.

If you truly want to advance signal transmission, figure out better quality wireless and not novelty cable.

The problem is a bit ’off’, as you see..there is an inherent and so far unsolved problem with ADC devices. They cannot parse a signal fine enough for high fidelity to actually ’be’ in the world of wireless. That they miss the point and the ear hears it or rather covers it up and hums along, in most people's cases. (most people have no idea how the ear/brain works, much to the loss of high en aduio, overall)

As, for wireless to work, we have to digitally encode an analog signal, every time, unless it is all electronic music being reproduced. As all signals in audio were originally analog and then converted with the FAULTED ADC devices. You know, the ones with the fundamental problem that has yet to be solved, that no one like to talk about. They talk about it so little that the vast number of audiophiles do not know the problem exists.

when we get to the end of all that, we find that analog cables, in an all triode or v-fet system, is the only real functional signal capturing and playback chain.

The rest is just distorted derivations, reduction after reduction until we’re left with a turd.

Which is how we got to the current stories about all the kids freaking out about how WE...the older crew, somehow had all the magic music during our time.

The loss is due to the slow erosion of the carrier, medium, the delivery system. Pidgin carrier means pidgin language means pidgin meaning/mind/people/message/etc. It’s a simple thing, if you can reach it. Garbage carrier means garbage message...

The art of making it work with the human ear was never realized as the problem or issue that it really is .... and the whole thing got thrown in the garbage over convenience and money. Reduced to a turd for the convenience of the modern average man. We lost the thread and the meaning behind fidelity, or, more properly never really realized what it was about and how it related to the human ear.

We are finally getting to understand how the human ear works with all this stuff and we can go back and correct the 35-50 years of mess that we call transistors and digital.