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A challenge to the "measurement" camp

I’ve watched some of his video and I actually agree on some of what he said,
but he seems too confident on his insistence on measurement. For those
who expound on the merits of blind test and measurement, why not turn
the table upside down?

Why not do a blind test of measurement? That is I will supply all the measurement
you want, can you tell me which is a better product?

For example, if I have a set of cable, and a set of measurement for each
individual cable, can you tell me which is the best cable based on measurement
alone? I will supply all the measurement you want.
After all, that is what you’re after right? Objective result and not subjective
listening test.

Fast forward to 8:15 mark where he keeps ranting about listening test
without measurement.  
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=katmUM-Xelw

By the way, is he getting paid by Belden?  Because he keeps talking about it
and how well it measures.  I've had some BlueJean cables and they can easily
bettered by some decent cables.  
andy2

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mozartfan
2,143 posts
 
10 gague is too thick, disregard, not necessary, 12 THHN is all you need, But my guess if you A/B a  12ga strand vs a  14ga , you could not tell the dif,,I perfer 12 gague as cost is the same as for the 14 gague,,, and 12 ga fits nicely in the speaker post hole. 
Same with power cord DIY, 10ga is too thick, 14ga might be OK, but ideally 12gague seems absolutely perfect in my DIY powercord. 

mozartfan
2,143 posts
 
a good 12 ga copper strand like THHN/Home Depot 50 ft spool, will offer equal to any speaker cable , no matter what price range. =  IOW a  12 ga copper, maybe even 14/16 ga  copper stranded,,, all will be equal to even those $50,000 speaker cables. 
They will sound identical, as per opening post,,,
Now as for interconnects,,No , not all are the same, in fact my guess is ~~most~~~ will sound different.
That said, there is no need to spend more than $50 of a  DIY interconnect that is made by the correct cable and correctly made.as I've just discovered. 
You see back in the day,,all we had were basic Radio Shak interconnects,,, ,,there was no discussion,,Now i hear Radio shak/Chinese generic interconnects as trash, next to high tech DIY interconnects. 
Summing up
1) a  nice gague stranded copper = all are identical, no class A,B,C, 
2) all interconnects are not equal/identical. Some are  Class A) superior   Class B)  pretty good and.... class C)  worthless.,,,seems to me the Class A are this new material called copper/coated with silver.
The class C are all those countless 18,20,22 gague chinese interconnects sold under thousands of names past 40 years. = worthless trash. Ebay  has countless sellers listing that trash at $50+ a set. 

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